Omega Grand Ploprof

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The very first sentence: "The purpose of this website is to assist the avid collector in their pursuit of what is arguably one of the rarest Seamasters ever produced." Here the use of "their", as a plural pronoun, is incorrect. If you'd like me to go on my hourly rate is negotiable.
 
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The very first sentence: "The purpose of this website is to assist the avid collector in their pursuit of what is arguably one of the rarest Seamasters ever produced." Here the use of "their", as a plural pronoun, is incorrect. If you'd like me to go on my hourly rate is negotiable.

Take a deep breath and love the Grande.
 
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Just can’t get good proof readers any more love the watch
Great example
 
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The very first sentence: "The purpose of this website is to assist the avid collector in their pursuit of what is arguably one of the rarest Seamasters ever produced." Here the use of "their", as a plural pronoun, is incorrect. If you'd like me to go on my hourly rate is negotiable.
What do you think the possessive pronoun should be given that it refers to ‘the ‘ avid collector

And what on earth is a plural pronoun other than ‘their ‘in the context of the singular collector or ‘their’ in the context of numerous collectors

I think your hourly rate is worth the same as your attempts at the correction ..sorry but you are simply incorrect
 
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Hi
I too have a day job. Just got back to a keyboard. I know you cant tell from my posts but English is my first and basically only language.

So I do not write in the Queens English... And I really do not proof read my posts but I try to get my point across...

Now back on topic...

Topic is 600m Omega Poser watch .....

you posted....

"I am the author and with respect I suggest you look at the information regarding the ploprofs sales in Italy following the overt display of the watch by Gianni Agnelli ..not sure which deep sea diving company he was employed by but the sudden surge in sales was not down to a massive new intake of deep sea divers in Rome Milan or Turin "

Ok let s take your logic and say hey I saw Ed White wearing a Speedmaster.... I bet the sales of Speedmasters increased in 1965 and the following years....

And as I continue with your Logic The Speedmaster is also a poser watch , right ? Good on you !

What value does that add to any topic on a vintage watch ?

Just a FYI each 600m was tested to 1000m at Bienne before leaving the factory. I happen to think the 600m was a ground breaking design in dive tools. Totally over engineered , unique design that can be spotted a miles away.

Just because someone 40 plus years ago wore one in a fashionable way. I was personally unaware when I purchased mine and used to post and talk about with other collectors over the last 25 years ( that could just be because I am American). This is the first time this ever came up...


Anyone with a SeaDweller , or any other " Tool watch" .... is a poser as well? How about a James Bond Seamster 3oo meter?


Before I post I always ask myself , ' am I adding value to the thread?" If not I typically do not post... This is the counter intuitive example, that I went ahead and posted anyway... As this thread really bothered me after coming back to if for a while and rereading it.


Ok "NEXT"

you posted

"The fact that I do not disclose my name is not ‘odd ‘it’s just that as a Former Adjunct Professor of International Law it’s conventional to reserve ones name for professional academic publications "


I just said it was odd, as your hosting sites Holy Grail , 1000 M with just a [email protected] and post content elsewhere on the net. It is not typical.... I used to post more often but i never in all my years on the net used a "handle" or a nickname, Well I am not in the same situation as yourself, might I suggest you take on a pseudonym for your website.


and Last

No I was not in an elevator again..... But I have been collecting for many years and was a traveling salesman for a lot of it. I happen to have a lot of stories that are linked to different watches... and that was my 1000 m story.


Good Hunting

Bill Sohne







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I am the author and with respect I suggest you look at the information regarding the ploprofs sales in Italy following the overt display of the watch by Gianni Agnelli ..not sure which deep sea diving company he was employed by but the sudden surge in sales was not down to a massive new intake of deep sea divers in Rome Milan or Turin

The fact that I do not disclose my name is not ‘odd ‘it’s just that as a Former Adjunct Professor of International Law it’s conventional to reserve ones name for professional academic publications

And I am delighted you had to laugh on multiple levels were you perhaps in an elevator again ?

With good humour and respect
 
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The very first sentence: "The purpose of this website is to assist the avid collector in their pursuit of what is arguably one of the rarest Seamasters ever produced." Here the use of "their", as a plural pronoun, is incorrect. If you'd like me to go on my hourly rate is negotiable.


Hi Gordon

No need to proof read and post anyone... Heck if someone did that to me .... oh boy.....

best regards
and
Good Hunting

Bill
 
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Before I post I always ask myself , ' am I adding value to the thread?" If not I typically do not post...
Wish more people were like this.
 
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I used to post more often but i never in all my years on the net used a "handle" or a nickname
Wish more people were like this.
 
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Hi
I too have a day job. Just got back to a keyboard. I know you cant tell from my posts but English is my first and basically only language.

So I do not write in the Queens English... And I really do not proof read my posts but I try to get my point across...

Now back on topic...

Topic is 600m Omega Poser watch .....

you posted....

"I am the author and with respect I suggest you look at the information regarding the ploprofs sales in Italy following the overt display of the watch by Gianni Agnelli ..not sure which deep sea diving company he was employed by but the sudden surge in sales was not down to a massive new intake of deep sea divers in Rome Milan or Turin "

Ok let s take your logic and say hey I saw Ed White wearing a Speedmaster.... I bet the sales of Speedmasters increased in 1965 and the following years....

And as I continue with your Logic The Speedmaster is also a poser watch , right ? Good on you !

What value does that add to any topic on a vintage watch ?

Just a FYI each 600m was tested to 1000m at Bienne before leaving the factory. I happen to think the 600m was a ground breaking design in dive tools. Totally over engineered , unique design that can be spotted a miles away.

Just because someone 40 plus years ago wore one in a fashionable way. I was personally unaware when I purchased mine and used to post and talk about with other collectors over the last 25 years ( that could just be because I am American). This is the first time this ever came up...


Anyone with a SeaDweller , or any other " Tool watch" .... is a poser as well? How about a James Bond Seamster 3oo meter?


Before I post I always ask myself , ' am I adding value to the thread?" If not I typically do not post... This is the counter intuitive example, that I went ahead and posted anyway... As this thread really bothered me after coming back to if for a while and rereading it.


Ok "NEXT"

you posted

"The fact that I do not disclose my name is not ‘odd ‘it’s just that as a Former Adjunct Professor of International Law it’s conventional to reserve ones name for professional academic publications "


I just said it was odd, as your hosting sites Holy Grail , 1000 M with just a [email protected] and post content elsewhere on the net. It is not typical.... I used to post more often but i never in all my years on the net used a "handle" or a nickname, Well I am not in the same situation as yourself, might I suggest you take on a pseudonym for your website.


and Last

No I was not in an elevator again..... But I have been collecting for many years and was a traveling salesman for a lot of it. I happen to have a lot of stories that are linked to different watches... and that was my 1000 m story.


Good Hunting

Bill Sohne







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What on earth are you going on about ?? ...


Can I respectfully suggest you go post something useful or alternatively spend your time constructively doing something to assist the general body of collectors rather than post poorly worded ,semi incoherent ,partially illiterate , none sequiturs

And why would you have the arrogance to presume to tell me what style or type of name I should use on MY website ?


You also claim the each ploprof was tested to 1000 meters in BIENNE before it left the factory ? Can you please direct me to the independently verified source from where you obtained that little nugget
 
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Excellent now I know why my bracelet was longer was a first generation good source.
 
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Can I respectfully suggest you go post something useful or alternatively spend your time constructively doing something to assist the general body of collectors rather than post poorly worded ,semi incoherent ,partially illiterate , none sequiturs

He's well known for not doing anything useful for the collecting community, that's certainly true.


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I first found this thread interesting, and then watched (almost vicariously) as it dived below safe crush level.

Whether (or weather if you like) we all adhere strictly to the Queen's English (even dropping into sesquipedalian loquaciousness (@TsoloT)), or simply write words as one would utter in a robust conversation (@Bill Sohne), I think the main point is that we should all consider the variances in the use of language by members who live in many countries, have regional dialects that may even confuse their near neighbours, may not have gone past high school, and often use the keyboard with enthusiasm and good intent, if not aforethought and consideration, of the variety of the audience.

I almost wanted to remove all punctuation (poorly structured as it may be) from this post to make it more interesting, but commonsense prevailed for once.

Maybe it should again.
 
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.... not like the proplof which was more a poseurs Watch[sorry but although that’s a bit controversial it’s the truth....

Imma poseur x2 😀

But seriously, I'm going to try wearing it outside my sleeve once I get back home from vacation. I'd do it now but I'm wearing my Seamaster 300 ti MC.



 
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And to clarify.

I've never had a problem understanding Bill's posts, and often look forward to his "just got this" reveals, especially clocks.

And (there I go again, starting a sentence with a conjunction) I also checked @TsoloT's website and found it to be an excellent resource for a specific model of vintage Omega and if any of us have suggestions or corrections to offer I suggest they do.

This can only go toward establishing greater knowledge bases that we can consult as we pursue our interest in vintage watches.
 
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I first found this thread interesting, and then watched (almost vicariously) as it dived below safe crush level.

Whether (or weather if you like) we all adhere strictly to the Queen's English (even dropping into sesquipedalian loquaciousness (@TsoloT)), or simply write words as one would utter in a robust conversation (@Bill Sohne), I think the main point is that we should all consider the variances in the use of language by members who live in many countries, have regional dialects that may even confuse their near neighbours, may not have gone past high school, and often use the keyboard with enthusiasm and good intent, if not aforethought and consideration, of the variety of the audience.

I almost wanted to remove all punctuation (poorly structured as it may be) from this post to make it more interesting, but commonsense prevailed for once.

Maybe it should again.
Nice turn of phrase ...
 
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Excellent now I know why my bracelet was longer was a first generation good source.
That’s absolutely correct the first generation was longer and more flexible
 
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Hello @TsoloT

First off, take it a notch down. I did not insult you.

I disagreed with your comment that the 600m is a " poser watch " Which you backed up with stating that Gianni Agnelli wore in public and others copied. You also implied it was not a real dive watch, maybe you did not realize that.

I countered with an example that the general public saw Ed White wearing a Speedmaster in space .... General public bought Speedmasters and wore them ..... Does that make a Speedmaster a poser watch as well?


is there something missing above ?

That is what I had a issue with and I commented...


Your comment

"Can I respectfully suggest you go post something useful or alternatively spend your time constructively doing something to assist the general body of collectors rather than post poorly worded ,semi incoherent ,partially illiterate , none sequiturs"

I feel the above is a personal attack ( Which I will not stand for). This is not about me and what I contributed to whatever community I participate in.

Please stay on topic, please do not try to deflect or change the topic as I have not attacked you or your credentials. Your sites looks to be well done and detailed.

NEXT

your comment
"And why would you have the arrogance to presume to tell me what style or type of name I should use on MY website ?"

Arrogance ? All I said maybe you should have a pseudonym on the site. I did not suggest any names or style.


and Lastly

a relevant question about watches...

"You also claim the each ploprof was tested to 1000 meters in BIENNE before it left the factory ? Can you please direct me to the independently verified source from where you obtained that little nugget"

I really like how level headed you are as well... Its not a independently verified source as it was a published technical guide #47 1971 from Omega to it dealer network and it was not a POSD ( point of sales display). You can tell just by the format of the leaflets they were perforated to fit into a special binder for other tech guides as a resource to the repair centers. I found this 28 years ago at a Omega warrantee repair center in the Washington DC area. They were in the process of clearing out boxes that had old technical guide binders and books they no longer needed.. This was in one binders other pages were on the new Monocoque case for the New Seamaster , new winding assembly of the 550 etc....

I cant find originals They must till be packed away since my move to NYC. i posted it years ago on I think Timezone at the time... but the links are dead, thanks photobucket! ... but I checked my defunct photobucket account and I still have the images there.... I also seached the web for the Monocoque case tech guide and found a pdf version I am posting just for fun.

So for the first time since like 1995 .... here is tech guide #47 from 1971 Sorry I dont have hi-res scans, thanks again photobucket.

First page, I know it not super clear but it does clear say They are tested to 100 ATM.



and this one I found on the net....





Have a nice day @TsoloT


Good Hunrting

Bill Sohne



What on earth are you going on about ?? ...


Can I respectfully suggest you go post something useful or alternatively spend your time constructively doing something to assist the general body of collectors rather than post poorly worded ,semi incoherent ,partially illiterate , none sequiturs

And why would you have the arrogance to presume to tell me what style or type of name I should use on MY website ?


You also claim the each ploprof was tested to 1000 meters in BIENNE before it left the factory ? Can you please direct me to the independently verified source from where you obtained that little nugget
 
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Someone is making himself look rather foolish here, isn't it time this thread was closed before things get worse?
 
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Hi @TsoloT


One of the reasons I use my real name is I stand behind what I say. Showed the reference material, Omega wrote it not me. If you don't like it then do not reference it. If I am incorrect I admit it.

Find your lack of consideration and or manners disappointing to say the least. Keep in mind this is all over that I disagreed with your opinion that 600 m is a poiser watch....

I would like to suggest you take a break from posting for a while and think about your actions.

Just to put this in perspective, I have been collecting Watches , clocks and navigational timekeepers for about 30 years seriously..

I have contributed to the Internet watch community for nearly as long. Also been active on watch forums for nearly 27 years.

Enjoy your watch sites ....

Regards

Bill Sohne
One of many Moderators at Omega Forums


You claim that EACH ploprof was tested to 1000 meters before it left the factory

Not that the watch has undergone testing to 1000 meters...I am Extremely well aware of the range of tests which the prototype was subject to prior to being offered for retail sale and that is what the tech manuals are adverting to



What you are claiming was that each ploprof was tested to 1000 prior to retail sale ....an assertion which in my humble opinion is arrant nonsense

I have done very extensive research and my site maintains the view that with vintage watches, absolutes are most difficult to come by because of the time and record gaps but I have been rigorous in the information I have published where ever possible so as to disabuse the collecting community of numerous myths and misdirections

So when someone makes an assertion that every watch sold was tested to 1000 meters when in fact it wasn’t ,gives me good reason to ignore them in the future

The fact that you sought to compare Ed White to Agnelli should have tipped me off that

I had in your case unfortunately forgotten what my grandfather used to say ..before you cross swords with somebody make sure they are armed