Omega geneve and their collectibility

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The Genève line was introduced in 1952 (some say '53), and, with the exception of the very low production Chronometres, sat at the top of OMEGA's model line of hand-wind watches throughout the 1950s. The cases featured elegantly chamfered lugs, and the indexes were made of gold. The 30mm movements, while no different from those used in other models of the period, had achieved notable success in the Geneva Observatory Trials (along with Neuchâtel, and others). In 1945 an early version won first prize, which was followed by other awards and records set during the 1950s. So, Omega chose to use Genève as a reference to those successes, and obviously applied to name to a high-end model.

They are, to my mind, a quintessentially understated yet elegant model, reflecting both the quality of Omega and ethos of the period very well.
Thanks for the interesting background info there Tony C. And couldn't agree more with your last para. Would you happen to know when, and perhaps why, they stopped writing Genève in italics? Looked much nicer in my opinion
 
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Even though most people here seem to prefer the older style of Genèves, I do like the 70s versions as well. Classy, simple, and a very affordable way into vintage Omegas, I think.

(Please ignore the strap)

 
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Would you happen to know when, and perhaps why, they stopped writing Genève in italics? Looked much nicer in my opinion

Sometime in the early '60s, though I can't be more precise. For the first time, during that late period, the script was also used on automatic versions. Presumably it was dropped when Omega decided to lower the cost, and make the model line more of an 'entry-level' line. I'm glad that they did that, otherwise it would have caused even more confusion amongst vintage collectors. 😁
 
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Sometime in the early '60s, though I can't be more precise. For the first time, during that late period, the script was also used on automatic versions. Presumably it was dropped when Omega decided to lower the cost, and make the model line more of an 'entry-level' line. I'm glad that they did that, otherwise it would have caused even more confusion amongst vintage collectors. 😁
Thanks for the info. And I agree with your last sentence, especially being new to the subject I can attest that there is more than enough confusion as it is! 😕📖
 
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The Genève line was introduced in 1952 (some say '53), and, with the exception of the very low production Chronometres, sat at the top of OMEGA's model line of hand-wind watches throughout the 1950s. The cases featured elegantly chamfered lugs, and the indexes were made of gold. The 30mm movements, while no different from those used in other models of the period, had achieved notable success in the Geneva Observatory Trials (along with Neuchâtel, and others). In 1945 an early version won first prize, which was followed by other awards and records set during the 1950s. So, Omega chose to use Genève as a reference to those successes, and obviously applied to name to a high-end model.

They are, to my mind, a quintessentially understated yet elegant model, reflecting both the quality of Omega and ethos of the period very well.

Thanks for the information! You bring up a really good point that I haven't considered before, as to why Omega decided to attribute the Genève title to this line in particular.

Also another thing that I find quite interesting is my watch has a 30T2 movement which I thought has a military background to it (correct me if i'm wrong), but the watch look itself (e.g. dial and case) is on the more classy side
 
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Even though most people here seem to prefer the older style of Genèves, I do like the 70s versions as well. Classy, simple, and a very affordable way into vintage Omegas, I think.

(Please ignore the strap)


For me personally, I see and appreciate the Genève line as a whole. Clearly different directions in different era, but both serve great purposes which are admirable! Love me some history i guess 😀
 
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The older Genèves, particularly those from the 1950s and early 1960s, are beautiful classic watches and very collectible in my opinion. I also think that it’s more difficult to find a Genève from this period in excellent condition than it is to find nice examples of Seamasters or Constellations of similar age. Here’s my 1959 Genève reference 2903, with a stainless steel case, rose gold dial markers, and a manual wind caliber 267 movement. Definitely one of my favorites from my collection.
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The older Genèves, particularly those from the 1950s and early 1960s, are beautiful classic watches and very collectible in my opinion. I also think that it’s more difficult to find a Genève from this period in excellent condition than it is to find nice examples of Seamasters or Constellations of similar age. Here’s my 1959 Genève reference 2903, with a stainless steel case, rose gold dial markers, and a manual wind caliber 267 movement. Definitely one of my favorites from my collection.
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Beautiful example almost bought a similar one a week or so ago but my phone died before I could bid! Enjoy
 
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Does anyone know if the Genève collection was an apart line within Omega line up (i.e. like Seamaster / Speedmaster / De Ville / Constellation)?
 
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Does anyone know if the Genève collection was an apart line within Omega line up (i.e. like Seamaster / Speedmaster / De Ville / Constellation)?
Yes, it was. If I remember correctly, the Geneve line was introduced in 1953. At that time, it was second only to the Constellation line in Omega's stable of dress watches. From 1965 to 1967, Omega sold watches with "Seamaster Genève" on the dial. After that they went back to "Genève," the line moved more toward an entry level watch in Omega's hierarchy, and the line was ultimately discontinued in 1979.
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Yes, it was, but the Genève line is no longer manufactured. If I remember correctly, the line was introduced in 1953. At that time, it was second only to the Constellation line in Omega's stable of dress watches.

To parse it out a bit more pedantically, the Constellation sat atop the line of automatic watches, and, as automatics were all the rage in the '50s, it was promoted very heavily, and produced in vastly greater numbers than the Genève. The latter sat atop the manual-wind heirarchy, with the exception of the very low-production 30T2rg Chronometres.
 
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To parse it out a bit more pedantically, the Constellation sat atop the line of automatic watches, and, as automatics were all the rage in the '50s, it was promoted very heavily, and produced in vastly greater numbers than the Genève. The latter sat atop the manual-wind heirarchy, with the exception of the very low-production 30T2rg Chronometres.
Agreed. And vintage 50’s and early 60’s Geneves in excellent condition are getting VERY hard to find.
 
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Does anyone know if the Genève collection was an apart line within Omega line up (i.e. like Seamaster / Speedmaster / De Ville / Constellation)?

Yes, indeed. Here's a Geneve that sold back in 2018 on OF. It's from the late 1960's and is a Seamaster in all but name. (I love it, btw 😗).
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But worth bearing in mind that many of the later Genève automatics used the ultra reliable 552 and 565 movements and had signed crystals, crowns etc.
I’m a fan of the ‘c’ case models, which appear to wear a little larger in this day and age.
 
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But worth bearing in mind that many of the later Genève automatics used the ultra reliable 552 and 565 movements and had signed crystals, crowns etc.
I’m a fan of the ‘c’ case models, which appear to wear a little larger in this day and age.
Don’t rub it in. Still hunting....😁
 
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Yes, it was, but the Genève line is no longer manufactured. If I remember correctly, the line was introduced in 1953. At that time, it was second only to the Constellation line in Omega's stable of dress watches. From 1965 to 1967, Omega sold watches with "Seamaster Genève" on the dial. After that they went back to "Genève," the line moved more toward an entry level watch in Omega's hierarchy, and the line was ultimately discontinued in 1979.
Very interesting, thanks a lot! I couldn’t find a lot of information about the different Omega collections in history. Only information about when the discontinued a collection but not the start.
 
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I drew the short stick when it comes to Geneve's, bought it liking it, but the 22mm strap and the case size makes it challenging

The small handwind movements are great to be honest, but I believe the reason they are not very collectable is them being not very water resistant, most lower end De Ville's and Geneve's usually got water inside at some point, leaves a bad image

My issue tho, maybe an unpopular opinion, but I don't value any Omega without an actual metal Omega logo, don't like the stamped logos 😀
 
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I also think that old Genèves in fine condition is harder to find than Seamaster or Constellations. Here is a newly aquired one, and it´s serviced, with documentation from the watchmaker!
Cal 600, ref 144758 SC-61 (1961). The dial is almost flawless. I am a happy man today! 😀

 
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I’ll add a couple of mine to the thread. Definitely a big shift in the styling over the years