Omega Extracts..

sheepdoll · Sep 16, 2022

Archer
Okay I’m trying to connect the dots here. Are you suggesting that because Omegas challenge on the globe trademark failed in US courts, that Omega is preventing ordering of extracts via the web in the US as a form of retaliation?

Not really my suggestion. More what I was gleaning from searching through the forums here. My point was more about searching through the archives here as this question does come up a lot and there is not really a good explanation. My goal was to direct the OP to search the forums as I thought forum archives contained the answer to the question.

As for the side comment the 100 years thing, I was thinking about this as I sort of recalled the US had not signed the Bern Copyright convention. I see that it was joined in 1989, so that reason is ruled out. https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/202...-wait-103-years-to-sign-the-berne-convention/

Perhaps @Foo2rama can elaborate more on the posting I included in the edit, that gave me this idea.

-j

Archer · Sep 16, 2022

sheepdoll
Not really my suggestion. More what I was gleaning from searching through the forums here.

Okay - interesting because I've never seen this put forward here before. It's a different interpretation for sure.

sheepdoll · Sep 16, 2022

Archer
Okay - interesting because I've never seen this put forward here before. It's a different interpretation for sure.

I keep getting lost in search rabbit holes. This sub link from the link above may have something to do with it. I am also getting a sense of deja-vu as I thought I read some of this here. Or perhaps it might have been discussion on one of the clubhouse chats.
https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/01/11/why-your-copyright-is-second-rate/
What that link implies, is that if Omega wants to retain copyright on the ledgers, then they would have to file a claim on every request in the US. Of course this argument seems to fall apart as one can get the extract, It just takes extra steps. Or is the extract only available in the US when printed on paper. In other words what protections are there on PDF?

As also said in my reply there is a lot of obfuscation between trademarks and Copyrights. One of the weird trademarks was CocaCola's using the Courier (or IBM Selectric font) to trademark the word Coke as generated by a typewriter. Then there are patents, which are hardly worth the paper such are printed on. So the US PTO handles trademarks and patents, But copyrights are issued by the library of congress. And this requires a physical copy. Not a bad thing as quite a few lost items (Such as the George Meleze films) were found.

I am now back to my Landeron Rabbit hole...

-j

Archer · Sep 16, 2022

sheepdoll
I keep getting lost in search rabbit holes. This sub link from the link above may have something to do with it. I am also getting a sense of deja-vu as I thought I read some of this here. Or perhaps it might have been discussion on one of the clubhouse chats.
https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2008/01/11/why-your-copyright-is-second-rate/
What that link implies, is that if Omega wants to retain copyright on the ledgers, then they would have to file a claim on every request in the US. Of course this argument seems to fall apart as one can get the extract, It just takes extra steps. Or is the extract only available in the US when printed on paper. In other words what protections are there on PDF?

As also said in my reply there is a lot of obfuscation between trademarks and Copyrights. One of the weird trademarks was CocaCola's using the Courier (or IBM Selectric font) to trademark the word Coke as generated by a typewriter. Then there are patents, which are hardly worth the paper such are printed on. So the US PTO handles trademarks and patents, But copyrights are issued by the library of congress. And this requires a physical copy. Not a bad thing as quite a few lost items (Such as the George Meleze films) were found.

I am now back to my Landeron Rabbit hole...

-j

I think you are seeing this through a particular lens, and are reading too much into the whole globe trademark case...

Foo2rama · Sep 16, 2022

sheepdoll
Not really my suggestion. More what I was gleaning from searching through the forums here. My point was more about searching through the archives here as this question does come up a lot and there is not really a good explanation. My goal was to direct the OP to search the forums as I thought forum archives contained the answer to the question.

As for the side comment the 100 years thing, I was thinking about this as I sort of recalled the US had not signed the Bern Copyright convention. I see that it was joined in 1989, so that reason is ruled out. https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/202...-wait-103-years-to-sign-the-berne-convention/

Perhaps @Foo2rama can elaborate more on the posting I included in the edit, that gave me this idea.

-j

The archive issue and the globe laser etching are unrelated.

One is in regards to US dealer contracts, the other is an attempt to stop grey market sales via a certain venue using copyright law…

At this point it appears that Omega could in fact offer US extracts via the internet as they have been doing internet sales in the US for a few years now implying they have resolved the contract issue with US based AD’s and sales through the internet.

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