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Melhadary
·Not even worth the 700$ paid for it? 😵💫
Omega Dial Identity
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TNTwatch
·My thought is, in the best scenario, the dial came from those cheaper Omega models from later than 1950s period with those glued-on, non-riveted straight baton markers, then being repainted for this watch. Otherwise, a fake or, some would say, aftermarket dial. Too low quality to be appropriate for a service replacement, sorry to say.
BTW, welcome back and hope to see pictures of the watch in your avatar soon.
BTW, welcome back and hope to see pictures of the watch in your avatar soon.
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Or a solid gold with original dial for $200 more: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291265470356.
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Melhadary
·BTW, welcome back and hope to see pictures of the watch in your avatar soon.
Wow...the SM 2518, cal. 343RG....! I apologize, it totally skipped my mind to get back to you about that.... The red colored font in the picture was a result of my watchmakers photography only! Till I received it from him (just before you asked me about it), I hadn't thought a second thought about it! It was sent directly from seller to my watchmaker and finally to me.
Here it is in real colors (dial text in black of course)!
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TNTwatch
·Wow, 2518! It's rare! 👍
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Melhadary
·The dial is a bit rough with unequal patina.... but it's definitely worth it for the rarity 😀
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·It's not bad at all. I've never seen it for sale for more than a year looking. Google shows very few examples of it.
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simon
·My gut feeling says this dial is not a repaint.
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X350 XJR
··Vintage Omega AficionadoDial figures are NOT glued on, they are an integral part of the dial. This was more typical of many 1960s Omega dials most notably Seamaster 600s.
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Melhadary
·Dial figures are NOT glued on, they are an integral part of the dial. This was more typical of many 1960s Omega dials most notably Seamaster 600s.
See, that's what I was thinking!
Here's the SM 600 dial:
And also VERY similar in terms of dial text fonts, here's the SM 167.070 Geneve/Seamaster conversion chronometer:
and the ZJ on the Grand Lux:
Thoughts?
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorA redial without a doubt in my mind. On these bumper Omegas, the hands end at the register markings. There are several correct examples of that above.
Not the case here. And I do think the hands are correct.
gatorcpa
Not the case here. And I do think the hands are correct.
gatorcpa
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John R Smith
·Whatever way that you slice it, M, this dial does not belong to a Seamaster 2577 with a cal 352 in it.
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MSNWatch
··Vintage Omega AficionadoAs it stands it's a parts watch and valued as such.
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Melhadary
·Just a bit of a follow up to this watch story...
It seems the exact "Z.J" type dial "back" was spotted last month on a recently sold SM XVI and was the subject of some scrutiny on another forum, with respectable member @mondodec pitching in some great Omega historical info...
http://omega.watchprosite.com/show-forumpost/fi-677/pi-6678953/ti-960963/t-omega-mystery-dial-on-omega-seamaster-cross-of-merit-1956-ref-ot-2850/
... quite interesting when combined with some research on the part of my watchmaker in terms of IWC brand examples of the Z.J back dial (http://www.iwc.com/forum/en/discussion/59768/) and some trademark info of the company (FLUCKIGER & CIE, ST.-IMIER) that produced them between 1945 and 1986 in the US!
It seems the exact "Z.J" type dial "back" was spotted last month on a recently sold SM XVI and was the subject of some scrutiny on another forum, with respectable member @mondodec pitching in some great Omega historical info...
http://omega.watchprosite.com/show-forumpost/fi-677/pi-6678953/ti-960963/t-omega-mystery-dial-on-omega-seamaster-cross-of-merit-1956-ref-ot-2850/
... quite interesting when combined with some research on the part of my watchmaker in terms of IWC brand examples of the Z.J back dial (http://www.iwc.com/forum/en/discussion/59768/) and some trademark info of the company (FLUCKIGER & CIE, ST.-IMIER) that produced them between 1945 and 1986 in the US!
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rolexfantastic
·I thought it was a Jay Z dial but i'm glad it all sorted out! 😀
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·Hello again all,
Bumping up this nearly nine month old thread with an update and a pleasant example of "good things come to those who wait"!
Having become quite convinced of the fact that this dial doesn't belong to this reference and that even if the dial is a US market Omega replacement dial, it's still very poor in quality after seeing how the font ink chipped off during service, I decided I had to wait for the right dial to come along to be fitted on the watch and do justice to the iconic 2577 first center seconds Seamaster reference (I believe so). It was simply saddening to see how that dial degraded the beauty of the watch even after an awesome TLC session by my watch guy 😵💫:
So.... I waited, and waited, and waited, until last month when by pure coincidence after being off the bay for quite a while, I decided to run a search and indeed, this dial jumped at me, with an accompanying cal. 352RG movement (incase anyone is in need of parts, by the way!):
The end result:
No more Jay Z joke, right?! 😜
Would love to hear thoughts... This is a correct dial design and layout for the 2577-11 reference, right?
More pics once the watch arrives 😉
Bumping up this nearly nine month old thread with an update and a pleasant example of "good things come to those who wait"!
Having become quite convinced of the fact that this dial doesn't belong to this reference and that even if the dial is a US market Omega replacement dial, it's still very poor in quality after seeing how the font ink chipped off during service, I decided I had to wait for the right dial to come along to be fitted on the watch and do justice to the iconic 2577 first center seconds Seamaster reference (I believe so). It was simply saddening to see how that dial degraded the beauty of the watch even after an awesome TLC session by my watch guy 😵💫:
So.... I waited, and waited, and waited, until last month when by pure coincidence after being off the bay for quite a while, I decided to run a search and indeed, this dial jumped at me, with an accompanying cal. 352RG movement (incase anyone is in need of parts, by the way!):
The end result:
No more Jay Z joke, right?! 😜
Would love to hear thoughts... This is a correct dial design and layout for the 2577-11 reference, right?
More pics once the watch arrives 😉
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorActually, I think you have the dial for the Ref. 2520:
http://www.omegawatches.com/planet-omega/heritage/vintage-watches-database?ref=14526
However, the Ref. 2520 and 2577 had interchangeable case backs. The Ref. 2520 was only made in solid gold (14K or 18K), while the Ref. 2577 case was made in steel, gold-cap and several colors of solid gold.
Some of the gold cases had both references:
I am assuming your watch is gold capped rather than gold. Therefore, I'm not sure whether this would have been the correct Omega dial for this watch. But it certainly fits the case perfectly.
As we like to say in my profession..."close enough for government work",.
gatorcpa
http://www.omegawatches.com/planet-omega/heritage/vintage-watches-database?ref=14526
However, the Ref. 2520 and 2577 had interchangeable case backs. The Ref. 2520 was only made in solid gold (14K or 18K), while the Ref. 2577 case was made in steel, gold-cap and several colors of solid gold.
Some of the gold cases had both references:
I am assuming your watch is gold capped rather than gold. Therefore, I'm not sure whether this would have been the correct Omega dial for this watch. But it certainly fits the case perfectly.
As we like to say in my profession..."close enough for government work",.
gatorcpa
