Omega De Ville Co axial limited 999

BrunoCodispoti · Thurs. 1:10pm

Hello guys,
I tried this particular piece today:

Omega De Ville Co Axial
Ref 5931.81.23
Cal Co Axial 2500
Rose Gold case
999 pieces - limited edition
Full set

+
dark Blue dial, beautiful marks and hands
Important gold weight
Limited edition

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I have another De Ville Co axial in ss with armadillo band
Too much printing on dial

I'm considering to buy it, after having reduced my collection sold some “small” watches.
it will be the most important watch in my collection.

The dealer tells me it contains more than 60 gr of gold (officially 97 gr, minus the weight of the movement).

He asks 7.5k€, I d like to offer him 6.5/7🙂

The alternative is a Globemaster (5k€) or a constellation gran luxe full gold with bracelet (10k€?)

What do u think about it?

I know it should be a personal choice but your opinions is important for me as usual 😃

Thank u very much for your time

ErichKeane · Thurs. 1:19pm

Its... interesting. You sure that is rose gold btw, that looks very yellow for rose gold...

I'm not a huge fan of hte dail, I wish it was either MORE pie-pan or less. The hands are pretty lovely though, and go with the rest of the watch well.

It is an attractive case, though looks to be worn somewhat often, but presumably you don't mind a little bit of markings.

For me, the dial printing is a killer. There is too much of it, which makes the dial too busy. I find myself wishing it had vastly less printing.

Based on other listings I've seen researching though, 7.5k is a pretty good deal.

BrunoCodispoti · Thurs. 2:02pm

ErichKeane
Its... interesting. You sure that is rose gold btw, that looks very yellow for rose gold...

I'm not a huge fan of hte dail, I wish it was either MORE pie-pan or less. The hands are pretty lovely though, and go with the rest of the watch well.

It is an attractive case, though looks to be worn somewhat often, but presumably you don't mind a little bit of markings.

For me, the dial printing is a killer. There is too much of it, which makes the dial too busy. I find myself wishing it had vastly less printing.

Based on other listings I've seen researching though, 7.5k is a pretty good deal.

Yes it s rose gold, the light was terrible.
I confirm the dial is too busy also for me, it is the worst point of the watch…

ErichKeane · Thurs. 2:13pm

BrunoCodispoti
Yes it s rose gold, the light was terrible.
I confirm the dial is too busy also for me, it is the worst point of the watch…

Honestly, if you don't love it, I'd move on and look at something better. You could get an absurdly good vintage jumbo connie-pie-pan for that and have a much more attractive watch (as well as a bunch of cash in your pocket!).

For 7 grand, if it isn't true love, move on and get something that WILL bring you joy/love every time you wear it. The "most important" watch in your collection should be amazing to you.

BrunoCodispoti · Sun. 3:46pm

ErichKeane
Honestly, if you don't love it, I'd move on and look at something better. You could get an absurdly good vintage jumbo connie-pie-pan for that and have a much more attractive watch (as well as a bunch of cash in your pocket!).

For 7 grand, if it isn't true love, move on and get something that WILL bring you joy/love every time you wear it. The "most important" watch in your collection should be amazing to you

Thank u for your opinion, I love the watch for sure, obv is not so simple also because it’s my first big investment 🙂

BrunoCodispoti · Sun. 3:54pm

Anyone else want to help me with their opinion?
Considering also the deployant clasp is rose gold (total around 65gr RG?), the weight of the precious metal alone would justify about 80% of the price of the entire watch, I think it’s an interesting stat..

hen · Mon. 1:45am

Its an ok watch, it depends of how you intend to use it. As a dress watch its good, but like it mentioned above its a busy dial. As any thing else I would look for a Globemaster.

This two tone one has a bit more bling if thats your preferance. I think this watch is lovely and very useful with its higher WR.
Get inspired here: https://omegaforums.net/threads/show-us-your-globemaster.151865/

I cant do any thing but guess on the monetary side of the watch, I am afraid, but gold do fluctuate. Even if the price of gold have stedely increased, that does not mean that this watch is going to increase in value. Its an seldom seen watch on here and it may not be that populare in the real world. If you buy it both as a way to store money and you love seeing it on your wrist its a good deal. If you buy it just for monerary reasons its not.

Good luck with your choice.

Tag0935 · Mon. 1:51am

Cool, first time I see this. But unless you really love it, for 7k you better don't have doubts, otherwise it won't bring you joy and you will move it on later. At this one will be hard to sell. The price will be in the gold then.

I tend to collect oddities so I quite like it. Having said that, I already own a Globie so I'm not tempted in that direction. To conclude, unless the watch won't let you sleep for three days in a row, move on.

502 to right · Mon. 3:23am

How is it running? That's the first iteration of 2500 movement, a 2500A. They were notoriously unreliable. Later came the 2500B, 2500C, and 2500D.

BrunoCodispoti · Mon. 3:27am

hen
Its an ok watch, it depends of how you intend to use it. As a dress watch its good, but like it mentioned above its a busy dial. As any thing else I would look for a Globemaster.

This two tone one has a bit more bling if thats your preferance. I think this watch is lovely and very useful with its higher WR.
Get inspired here: https://omegaforums.net/threads/show-us-your-globemaster.151865/

I cant do any thing but guess on the monetary side of the watch, I am afraid, but gold do fluctuate. Even if the price of gold have stedely increased, that does not mean that this watch is going to increase in value. Its an seldom seen watch on here and it may not be that populare in the real world. If you buy it both as a way to store money and you love seeing it on your wrist its a good deal. If you buy it just for monerary reasons its not.

Good luck with your choice.

Thank u sir, for sure my reason is to store money and have a pleasure to wear it 🙂
I love also the globemaster, especially the ss with blue dial. I tried it in omega boutique and could be a great merge between my two vintage constellations (pie pan and c case).

BrunoCodispoti · Mon. 3:34am

502 to right
How is it running? That's the first iteration of 2500 movement, a 2500A. They were notoriously unreliable. Later came the 2500B, 2500C, and 2500D.

Good evidence, I must check. i have a 2500B on my other co Axial de ville and it also has some issue.

BrunoCodispoti · Mon. 3:39am

Tag0935
Cool, first time I see this. But unless you really love it, for 7k you better don't have doubts, otherwise it won't bring you joy and you will move it on later. At this one will be hard to sell. The price will be in the gold then.

I tend to collect oddities so I quite like it. Having said that, I already own a Globie so I'm not tempted in that direction. To conclude, unless the watch won't let you sleep for three days in a row, move on.

Thank u, I write here to collect opinions and open my eyes before to do something. I will follow only my heart as usual 😁

hen · Mon. 5:30am

502 to right
How is it running? That's the first iteration of 2500 movement, a 2500A. They were notoriously unreliable. Later came the 2500B, 2500C, and 2500D.

That is a really good point. It is possible to swap out earlier movements with the 2500D when they where serviced.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/ome...p-upgrade-from-2500c-to-2500d-possible.90262/

padders · Mon. 5:40am

hen
That is a really good point. It is possible to swap out earlier movements with the 2500D when they where serviced.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/ome...p-upgrade-from-2500c-to-2500d-possible.90262/

Not really, If you have a 2500A and that is what was fitted to these, you are stuck with it AFAIK. Maybe Omega used to retrofit the B spec parts but even then you'd be stuck with something sub optimal. Nowhere in the linked thread does anyone suggest A to D is doable. Even if you could make a 2500D fit, the cost would be prohibitive and Omega themselves wont entertain such a swap so you'd pick up the entire bill at an Indy. Omega added triple layer escapement, a free sprung balance and a different beat rate over the course of its life so the changes are not trivial and I suspect you can't drop a D in where an A once lived easily or at all.

Personally I'd avoid these. They were the very first Omega to use their development of the Co-ax movement but it didn't work very well until substantially redesigned. The excess dial text is also a negative as noted. I'd be at gold value and no more but that is me.

info: https://timeandtidewatches.com/vintage-in-depth-omega-de-ville-co-axial-escapement-limited-edition/

John7boy · Mon. 8:06am

Some comments from a long time owner that may be helpful. I purchased mine new back in 99 when it was first released.
Initially I had no end of trouble with it, the third return to Omega resulted in a complete change of movement from the “A” variant of the 2500 which all of them were supplied with.
Since then I’ve had no issues, serviced once and still keeping very good time.
There were issues with the viscosity of the oil used for lubrication I believe.
It’s likely your watch would have had the same issues.

These have gone up in value recently but that is due to the gold content rather than desirability.

It was my first significant watch purchase and a toss up between this and a steel Daytona, I decided I wasn’t a Rolex person. Not my finest financial decision but C’est la Vie.

I agree with the comments on the overuse of text on the dial but in the flesh it’s less of an issue. The rose gold variant you’re looking is more attractive I think than my yellow gold.

To sum up, I think there is some historical significance being the first Co-axial model but is that enough for you to drop 7k on a watch your unsure about?

Omega De Ville Co axial limited 999

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