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Hi everyone,
What do you think about this Constellation 2852‑3? How does the dial look to you? Is the crown correct? They’re asking about €900 - If you think it’s worth looking into further, I’m going to ask the seller for pictures of the movement as well. Thanks in advance!

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Fallout Boy
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Dial looks OK for me (poor pictures from the seller , PRO?) - never buy wthout pictures of the movement, time-grapher mesure and the inside caseback.
 
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While I completely disagree with the above statement to “never buy without timegrapher measurements” (or even without movement pics, even though they’re both nice to have), the dial does look ok, as in original. Case back looks poor.

You know the reference of the watch - if you look at some other examples, what can you see regarding the originality of the crown, since you’re asking? Those are easily compared.
Do a little legwork, don’t just use this place as a free evaluation tool. You’ve been posting a constant stream of vintage Omegas of all sorts to have the forum check it without any noticeable research of your own.
 
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Posting on this forum is part of my research; there are many Omegas for sale in my area, and I don’t ask for opinions on all of them. I only post the ones that look good to me and seem reasonably priced.
Here, people point out any flaws or if the price I thought was good actually isn’t. Regarding the crown, it looks good to me, although when looking up reference 2852 I found at least three different types.
 
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Furthermore, the vast majority of the 2852s available for sale have different dial indices from the one I posted, which I believe is a 2852-5 and not a -3 as stated by the seller.

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Pokernico Pokernico
Posting on this forum is part of my research; there are many Omegas for sale in my area, and I don’t ask for opinions on all of them.

Gracious of you to only have asked us to check the most interesting 15-20 (!) watches from the past 2 months…

One can use the forum as a research tool, or have the users of the forum do the work. People here grow tired of being used and the sheer volume of all kind of watches you ask about (Connies, Speedsonic, Speedies, SM Pros, Zodiacs, …) every couple of days is remarkable.

Take your crown question for example - there are numerous threads about the correct crown for 2852s and an ongoing debate if it’s only one that’s correct (thick decagonal, #42019) or possibly two (clover, #42023). I summed this up for you now, you could’ve found out the same info with a short search on the forum.

The question about the indices, on the other hand, is a different matter. Using the forum or google, it’s easy to look at a couple handful of examples and if you notice that a certain style of indices seems uncommon, that’s a specific and legit question that you’ll always get an answer for.

Can you see how that feels very different to “What do you think about this watch”, followed by pics of yet another vintage Omega?
 
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MtV MtV
Gracious of you to only have asked us to check the most interesting 15-20 (!) watches from the past 2 months…

One can use the forum as a research tool, or have the users of the forum do the work. People here grow tired of being used and the sheer volume of all kind of watches you ask about (Connies, Speedsonic, Speedies, SM Pros, Zodiacs, …) every couple of days is remarkable.

Take your crown question for example - there are numerous threads about the correct crown for 2852s and an ongoing debate if it’s only one that’s correct (thick decagonal, #42019) or possibly two (clover, #42023). I summed this up for you now, you could’ve found out the same info with a short search on the forum.

The question about the indices, on the other hand, is a different matter. Using the forum or google, it’s easy to look at a couple handful of examples and if you notice that a certain style of indices seems uncommon, that’s a specific and legit question that you’ll always get an answer for.

Can you see how that feels very different to “What do you think about this watch”, followed by pics of yet another vintage Omega?
Aside from the fact that I posted 9 threads in 2 months, not 15 or 20 as you mentioned, help me understand: what is this annoyed attitude toward seeing a new thread where advice is being asked? You should be happy that there is activity on the forum, yet you act as if it’s an inconvenience. Anyone who doesn’t want to comment can simply not comment, and those who only comment to give little lectures can also refrain.
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Pokernico
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Why is my last message awaiting moderator approval? Is it because you don’t like it when someone points out your hypocrisy?
 
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Pokernico Pokernico
Why is my last message awaiting moderator approval? Is it because you don’t like it when someone points out your hypocrisy?
No, it was incorrectly auto-flagged as spam and is visible now. Other members don't have control over what you post.
 
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Hello @Pokernico, if you’re trying to get free expert advice from people who have regular lives; jobs, families, obligations to tend to, and who are kind hearted enough to spend a bit of time helping other people, perhaps it would be a good idea not to make personal attacks when one member of the community suggest you contribute your own efforts.

That is indeed the philosophy of the forum, even if it is unpleasant for you to hear it.

May we suggest you listen to the advice provided?

Best regards
 
Dan S
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The watch looks legit and correct, but unappealing IMO. Personally, I would not get any joy from that watch because of the poor overall condition (blistered/moldy dial and overpolished case). I would much rather spend a couple hundred more for an attractive example.
 
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Dan S Dan S
The watch looks legit and correct, but unappealing IMO. Personally, I would not get any joy from that watch because of the poor overall condition (blistered/moldy dial and overpolished case). I would much rather spend a couple hundred more for an attractive example.
Thanks for your opinion - honestly, I couldn’t find any for sale at just €200 more. €900 is the best price I could find for a 2852 with the original crown, using eBay and Chrono24 as references, I see that prices for this model start around $1,400 USD and go up.and they go up to €2,500 for one in great condition (not this one for sure).
 
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Pokernico Pokernico
Thanks for your opinion - honestly, I couldn’t find any for sale at just €200 more. €900 is the best price I could find for a 2852 with the original crown, using eBay and Chrono24 as references, I see that prices for this model start around $1,400 USD and go up.and they go up to €2,500 for one in great condition (not this one for sure).
The price you pay depends on where you are looking and how patient you are. Asking prices on eBay and C24 tend to be silly and exorbitant and that's not the way to do valuations.

To get a good watch at a fair price, you generally need to give yourself at least a few months (depending on the rarity of the reference), and cast the net broadly, not only the easy places like eBay and C24, but forum sales listings, internet sales platforms (in the US they are Reddit/Craigslist/Facebook), local sales locations, auction houses large and small, etc. Be flexible, sometimes you need to buy a lot of multiple watches and then sell the ones you don't want. Sometimes the watch has potential but will need some TLC, etc. Educate yourself in advance so you are ready to jump as soon as you find a good one.
 
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Pokernico Pokernico
Aside from the fact that I posted 9 threads in 2 months, not 15 or 20 as you mentioned, help me understand: what is this annoyed attitude toward seeing a new thread where advice is being asked? You should be happy that there is activity on the forum, yet you act as if it’s an inconvenience. Anyone who doesn’t want to comment can simply not comment, and those who only comment to give little lectures can also refrain.

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Thread 'Omega Costellatio 2652 5SC, asking for opinions' ·
What do you think of this Constellation 2652 5SC? I like it a lot. The asking price (I haven’t tried to negotiate) is $1,100 USD - do you think it’s worth it?

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Pokernico ·

You’re asking about 7 watches in this thread alone. Anyways:

Would you have preferred to receive fewer and fewer responses to your questions without knowing why? Because that is what’s likely to happen at some point, or might already have started. There are quite a few people here who could‘ve commented on crowns, on your post regarding the subreference -3 vs -5 and their relevance, about different dial configurations. And yet they didn’t.

Yes, a forum lives of contributions, but „What do you think?“ isn’t a contribution, it’s asking others to contribute.

My words may be rather direct, yes. But you’re not a one-time poster who inquires about a watch they just inherited, not intending to make a hobby out of it. You’re obviously excited about vintage Omegas, which is great. You’ve come to the right place. There’s more info already in the depths of this forum than you might think and more knowledge among users here than anywhere else in the world. I‘m trying to point you to a sustainable way to make the best of it in the long term. To actually learn how to do research, to get to a position in which you can pull the trigger quickly when a good deal comes up. Maybe even to a point at which you can give something back and help someone else who‘s new to the hobby. Take it as you will.
 
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https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-costellatio-2652-5sc-asking-for-opinions.188424/ Cover Image
Thread 'Omega Costellatio 2652 5SC, asking for opinions' ·
What do you think of this Constellation 2652 5SC? I like it a lot. The asking price (I haven’t tried to negotiate) is $1,100 USD - do you think it’s worth it?

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Pokernico ·

You’re asking about 7 watches in this thread alone. Anyways:

Would you have preferred to receive fewer and fewer responses to your questions without knowing why? Because that is what’s likely to happen at some point, or might already have started. There are quite a few people here who could‘ve commented on crowns, on your post regarding the subreference -3 vs -5 and their relevance, about different dial configurations. And yet they didn’t.

Yes, a forum lives of contributions, but „What do you think?“ isn’t a contribution, it’s asking others to contribute.

My words may be rather direct, yes. But you’re not a one-time poster who inquires about a watch they just inherited, not intending to make a hobby out of it. You’re obviously excited about vintage Omegas, which is great. You’ve come to the right place. There’s more info already in the depths of this forum than you might think and more knowledge among users here than anywhere else in the world. I‘m trying to point you to a sustainable way to make the best of it in the long term. To actually learn how to do research, to get to a position in which you can pull the trigger quickly when a good deal comes up. Maybe even to a point at which you can give something back and help someone else who‘s new to the hobby. Take it as you will.
Tough but true. It's a community, and there are plenty of ways to contribute if a member sincerely wants to engage. If they don't, it gets noticed eventually.
 
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