Spoonta66
·Then send it to Christie’s, pay them a commission and let them auction it for you. If you do that, don’t be surprised if the buyer comes back at them for misrepresentation.
People like you damage this hobby.
I’m out.
gatorcpa
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Then send it to Christie’s, pay them a commission and let them auction it for you. If you do that, don’t be surprised if the buyer comes back at them for misrepresentation.
People like you damage this hobby.
I’m out.
gatorcpa
They probably aren’t correct on that. I trust Goldammer more and they have questions, too.
https://goldammer.me/blogs/articles/steel-vintage-watch-case-maker-guide?srsltid=AfmBOooVnEyaQWfM5Wa9K1mWDXQ4CapZVZ3qRoBdJmwYT5muEmdHU5uK#:~:text=7) Etoile - Sandoz & Breitmeyer (?)
I’m always happy to buy beer when I see something that I haven’t seen before. When you sell that overpriced redial are you going to send all the people here a commission?
gatorcpa
Always willing to learn new stuff - but I can find no reference to Guillame Geneste (except for a photographer) or Geneste & Cie in Mikrolisk or on the net.
Anybody else heard of or seen the name?
Because I advertised a watch exactly how an "expert?" appraiser described it at a much lower price? What should I be trying to sell it for?
you can ask what you like of course - but it is the knowingly misleading description that is the problem. (and please don't fall back on "but Christie's said")
Describe it properly, ask what you will and let the market decide on its value - no problem with that.
After all I have read here I'm going to do just that first thing in the morning. I was just relying on the information and valuation I was provided by who I thought was a reliable source.
well, a bit of advice, if I may,
amend the description of the dial to note it has been 'restored'. (the usual dealer's term for redialled)
omit the bit about Geneste and the rare elite case - because its not and nobody has heard of Geneste & Cie and its doubtful if they even exist. (unless Christies can cite their source of course) It is a special order case - but to most collectors it is inferior, not superior, without its gold iconic medallion.
the outer dial finish is clous de Paris (not cloud)
- and, whilst it is a pretty watch with a passable redial, as @cristos71 says, it is not a collectors' item because it is a redialled watch and the dial is 50% of the value in a Constellation.
This doesn't mean that someone who just wants a pretty vintage watch, has too much money and doesn't know better, won't over-pay for it.
(just take it to Hong Kong and you'll have loads of cool kids with bulging wallets queuing up to buy it)
well now, I tried - and all I found was AI babble, much like the info in @Spoonta66 / Christie's blurb
apologies - its difficult to copy links a there are multiple links within the AI text.
If you want to follow my rabbit-hole route...
After all I have read here I'm going to do just that first thing in the morning. I was just relying on the information and valuation I was provided by who I thought was a reliable source.