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Omega Constellation 2652 Dial: Hobnail or Honeycomb?

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Hello all,

I have this 1952 Constellation Reference 2652 and I am still confused regarding wether the outer ring is hobnail or honeycomb. The pattern is distinct raised 4-sided pyramids but the hobnail pictures seem to have a seperate border running between them, does that make this a honeycomb? I have included a close up if that helps?

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JimInOz
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Honeycomb would be a six sided/hexagonal pattern.
This one is hobnail, also known as Clous de Paris.

Clous de Paris
A guilloché (or embossed) pattern on a watch dial that forms a series of small pyramid-like squares. Also known as a hobnail pattern.
 
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I think both could fall under the hobnail or Clous de Paris category, since they both show small pyramid-like square textures.

That said, the OP’s dial gives me more of a “waffle” impression, while mine looks closer to a finer “hobnail” pattern.

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Some people refer to the pattern as half waffle.

It’s all about semantics - see here some examples and how people name them. I think you’ll see some variability in names

https://omegaforums.net/threads/lets-see-your-textured-dials-waffle-and-hobnail.173187/ Cover Image
Thread 'Let's See Your Textured Dials (Waffle and Hobnail)' ·
Hopefully we don't already have a thread like this (I couldn't find one, but I suck at the search function), but waffle and hobnail dials are some of the best in my opinion. Let's see what you've...
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JimInOz
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I'd also classify yours as Clous de Paris with the pyramid shapes representing the hobnails in the boots.
A waffle pattern is the reverse, waffles have high walls dividing the sunken waffle pits.

I know I'm swimming upstream but I've never seen a waffle with raised pyramids, but since the day the first person thought that's what they looked like, the appelation has stuck and I doubt I'll ever change it.

Waffle patterns.


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JimInOz JimInOz
I'd also classify yours as Clous de Paris with the pyramid shapes representing the hobnails in the boots.
A waffle pattern is the reverse, waffles have high walls dividing the sunken waffle pits.

I know I'm swimming upstream but I've never seen a waffle with raised pyramids, but since the day the first person thought that's what they looked like, the appelation has stuck and I doubt I'll ever change it.

Waffle patterns.


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People have been saying this is repainted, are there any red flags?
 
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I'm not convinced by this dial. The texture effect doesn't look right either to me. What reference is it?

Here a half waffle of mine, but opposite layout. Mine's a 2652.

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The OP watch clearly fails the MOY test, what do we think about that? The minute and seconds hand look far too long. Doesn't feel right to me.
 
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I'm not convinced by this dial. The texture effect doesn't look right either to me. What reference is it?

Here a half waffle of mine, but opposite layout. Mine's a 2652.

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2652-8 movement dates to 1953
 
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The OP watch clearly fails the MOY test, what do we think about that? The minute and seconds hand look far too long. Doesn't feel right to me.
As far as I was aware they didn't shorten the hands until 1958? I was told by my watchmaker that and pre-1958 Constellations that have the shorter hands had them replaced at some point in time during service.
 
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Seconds hand is wrong, others are too long. Do you have pictures of the movement?
 
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Spoonta66 Spoonta66
As far as I was aware they didn't shorten the hands until 1958? I was told by my watchmaker that and pre-1958 Constellations that have the shorter hands had them replaced at some point in time during service.
I'm afraid that your watchmaker is incorrect.
Generally, the minute hand reaches the minute track.
However, on pie pan dials, some watches have the minute hand protruding, very slightly, over the minute track - most noticeable between indices.
 
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OP's watch is for sure a redial, "n's" are all wrong in Constellation(for one thing)
 
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Peemacgee Peemacgee
I'm afraid that your watchmaker is incorrect.
Generally, the minute hand reaches the minute track.
However, on pie pan dials, some watches have the minute hand protruding, very slightly, over the minute track - most noticeable between indices.
Thanks for that, he told me the early ones protruded nearly to the outside of the dial before they shortened them layer to the inside. Cheeky bugger 🤣
 
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OP's watch is for sure a redial, "n's" are all wrong in Constellation(for one thing)
I'm disappointed but I didn't pay much for it so it was still a good deal as a repaint fortunately
 
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The first part of the watch description is missing - does it mention the redial?

The OP didn’t mention or show us the ‘rare no medallion caseback’.
Has it got a true, presentation, flat back or has the medallion simply fallen off?

Is the ‘elite level Geneste case maker’ a bit like a Gerlach case do we think?
 
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