Omega Connie with hidden crown?

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Can anyone confirm if Omega produced these Constellations with a hidden crown? The logo on the crown as well is awfully suspicious because of the huge Omega logo size. Case ref is 168.004

 
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What did your own research tell you?
 
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What did your own research tell you?

not an unreasonable comment @dra43b

if you Google ‘constellation hidden crown 168.004’ you will get lots of hits.

the watch in question is an all correct early 168.004 but I dont think I’ve ever seen that much corrosion inside a constellation case back.


Edit: but the lack of case back seal might explain a lot
 
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That’s a very grubby watch but yea the hidden crowns are legit and somewhat larger than the average constellation too.
 
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What did your own research tell you?
Saw some but a very tiny portion of the crown is sticking out a bit. The one i posted is totally hidden
 
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I've always thought that that styling feature was attractive. I don't know if it'd be practical to use as I've never seen one, but only viewed photographs.
 
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I've always thought that that styling feature was attractive. I don't know if it'd be practical to use as I've never seen one, but only viewed photographs.

looks great
Bleeding’ awful to use
 
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I've always thought that that styling feature was attractive. I don't know if it'd be practical to use as I've never seen one, but only viewed photographs.

I've had non-Omega hidden crown watches, and I can't really wind them manually, so I usually just jiggle them around for a few minutes to get them going. One of them is a Seiko that doesn't hand-wind anyway. It's an interesting look. My sense is that it was a bit of a flex for the auto-winding movements, "our movements auto-wind so efficiently, you don't even need to be able to wind them."

 
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Saw some but a very tiny portion of the crown is sticking out a bit. The one i posted is totally hidden

The 168.004 is known as the ‘hidden crown Connie’ and an original crown should be flush as you see.
The 168.010 is also known as a hidden crown Connie but in actuality the original crown protrudes by about 1mm

Neither of theses crowns are available new, so having the original is a bonus.

The (same) replacement crowns for both ( there are two - one flat ended, one dome ended) project by a couple of mm but don’t actually look that bad on the watch.
 
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looks great
Bleeding’ awful to use
See I sort of didn’t mind them because I have no fingernails to speak of anyway and use a credit card wedged in behind the crown to pull it out, and the crowns on the hidden crown models are at least coin edge types instead of the stupid 10-sides things or the clovers that my shrek hands can’t grip.
 
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I find mine a PITA to man wind, setting isn't too bad since mine sticks out a mm but winding is best done by wrist shaking. The OP watch looks very grotty. I'd steer clear of that one personally.
 
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I've always thought that that styling feature was attractive. I don't know if it'd be practical to use as I've never seen one, but only viewed photographs.

The hidden crown on the 168.004 is the result of decades of research by Omega into the most useless crown design possible on a wrist watch. After the initial succes of the clover Seamaster crown was followed up by the decagonal Constellation crown, this was the crowning glory of the design team.

@dra43b note that the BoR bracelet on this example is incorrect.
 
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Have the severe rotor wear addressed at service.
 
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And always keep an eye out for the 168.004's that were fitted with the cal. 564

 
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This little tool made winding my Constellation crown easy.
Buy Again (amazon.com)

Your link doesn't work. In any case, the type of tool to which you are referring is unlikely to work for a recessed/hidden crown because of the lack of clearance.
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This little tool made winding my Constellation crown easy.
Buy Again (amazon.com)
Respectfully, that tool would be useless for winding a hidden crown Constellation. Please give a little more thought to what you post before you post it.
 
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Respectfully, that tool would be useless for winding a hidden crown Constellation. Please give a little more thought to what you post before you post it.
I read the OP and all the comments. I should have been more specific that the tool was not for the hidden crown but for the more common ten sided crown. Comments on the ten sided crown began to pop up in the thread so I was addressing those. As for the value of the tool...it works really well...much easier and faster than standing there waving the watch back and forth.
 
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I read the OP and all the comments. I should have been more specific that the tool was not for the hidden crown but for the more common ten sided crown. Comments on the ten sided crown began to pop up in the thread so I was addressing those. As for the value of the tool...it works really well...much easier and faster than standing there waving the watch back and forth.
Yes, I have one too and they do work very well on the 10 sided crowns. The reason that they don't work on the hidden crown Constellation is that the crown is flush with the side of the case and can't be gripped by the tool.