Omega automatic 2897 solid 18k

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Hello everyone,

I’ve bought my first vintage Omega Automatic 2897 solid 18k watch, and this is all new to me. I’ve recently developed a new interest in vintage timepieces, and I’d like to get your input on whether I’ve made a good purchase. Is this considered a good watch and does it look it’s in a good condition?

I’d like to hear from you

 
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It is very hard to judge whether this is a “good watch” from a few pictures on the internet.

Is it keeping time? Does it wind and set easily? Have you had it inspected close up by a watchmaker?

The fact that it is 18K gold probably drove the price, not the condition (which looks very nice) or the movement.

FWIW, the dial design and the caliber of the movement match the Omega records from their database.

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-tresor-omega-ot-2897

Hope this helps,
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Congrats on your first vintage Omega! Whether it's a "good" purchase really depends on what you were looking for in a vintage timepiece.
 
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What's not to like? Keep us updated on your new found obsession.

My only piece of advice to you is to get several good Portraits of yourself surrounded by all Loved Ones so you will have a documented timestamp as the point where you started to develop deep bags under your eyes and developed a twitch.

Most times the twitch eventually goes away.

Most times...

Good Luck👍
 
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It is very hard to judge whether this is a “good watch” from a few pictures on the internet.

Is it keeping time? Does it wind and set easily? Have you had it inspected close up by a watchmaker?

The fact that it is 18K gold probably drove the price, not the condition (which looks very nice) or the movement.

FWIW, the dial design and the caliber of the movement match the Omega records from their database.

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-tresor-omega-ot-2897

Hope this helps,
gatorcpa
Thanks for the reply.
The watch is keeping good time and it’s easy to set and wind.

I haven't had it checked by a watchmaker yet and I should have asked my question a bit more clearly. What I'm curious about is whether this is a good investment and whether it holds its value and whether it may still increase in value. I was also curious what you, as experts, think of the overall condition.
And if this is a wanted piece by collectors
 
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Congrats on your first vintage Omega! Whether it's a "good" purchase really depends on what you were looking for in a vintage timepiece.
Thank you! I was looking for something classy and something that keeps value therefore the choice to go for a solid gold piece
 
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What's not to like? Keep us updated on your new found obsession.

My only piece of advice to you is to get several good Portraits of yourself surrounded by all Loved Ones so you will have a documented timestamp as the point where you started to develop deep bags under your eyes and developed a twitch.

Most times the twitch eventually goes away.

Most times...

Good Luck👍
Hahaha, thanks for the advice and will do
 
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I’m also curious to know what’s the worth of the watch. Just to know that haven’t overpayed.
 
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In general, watches are not good investments, and new enthusiasts are especially unlikely to make a purchase that will appreciate. That said, a highly collectible stainless steel watch in great condition is likely to hold its value, so if you buy well, you will usually be ok. A gold watch, who knows, it depends on the price of gold.

The future value of the watch will mainly be driven by the price of gold, which is at a record all-time high, so I wouldn't want to speculate about it. Even my gold buyer isn't buying gold right now. If you believe that gold will continue to rise, then you believe in your watch. Even if you overpaid (which you probably did), the value will eventually catch up if gold continues to climb. However, if we're in a bubble, and the price of gold goes back down, then you will be further under water. I know about how much I would pay for it, but I don't think that will be helpful to you.

In general, the watch is a collectible model, and the desirability/value of a particular example depends a lot on condition. The price also depends greatly where you buy it and who you buy it from. As you spend more time learning about vintage watches, you will be able to judge condition for yourself.
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In general, watches are not good investments, and new enthusiasts are especially unlikely to make a purchase that will appreciate. That said, a highly collectible stainless steel watch in great condition is likely to hold its value, so if you buy well, you will usually be ok. A gold watch, who knows, it depends on the price of gold.

The future value of the watch will mainly be driven by the price of gold, which is at a record all-time high, so I wouldn't want to speculate about it. Even my gold buyer isn't buying gold right now. If you believe that gold will continue to rise, then you believe in your watch. Even if you overpaid (which you probably did), the value will eventually catch up if gold continues to climb. However, if we're in a bubble, and the price of gold goes back down, then you will be further under water. I know about how much I would pay for it, but I don't think that will be helpful to you.

In general, the watch is a collectible model, and the desirability/value of a particular example depends a lot on condition. The price also depends greatly where you buy it and who you buy it from. As you spend more time learning about vintage watches, you will be able to judge condition for yourself.
Thanks for your reply, Dan. I think the gold value will increase. I don't know exactly how much gold it contains yet, but I estimate it to be 18 to 20 grams of 18k gold, and of course, the watch has more value than just the gold value. I'm curious how much you would have paid if you bought this exact model. And don't get me wrong, monetary value isn't everything, of course. I'm going to wear this watch with great pleasure and pride, and it has certainly sparked my interest in vintage watches and thus a new hobby.
 
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If you want opinions about the purchase you should share what you paid.
 
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I don't know exactly how much gold it contains yet, but I estimate it to be 18 to 20 grams of 18k gold, and of course, the watch has more value than just the gold value.
It does, but probably not as much as you think.

Omega’s Tresor line was one of their better lines when originally sold around 1960. However, it is not considered particularly collectible today. So I would price a watch like that in terms of the gold value. You estimated about 19 grams of 18K gold. Hopefully, that is without the movement, crystal, stem and crown, none of which are gold.

Current price of 19g of 18K gold is a little over $2,200. I’d add about $50 for the original dial and $100 for the movement parts.

So if you paid more than $2,400, you probably overpaid.
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It does, but probably not as much as you think.

Omega’s Tresor line was one of their better lines when originally sold around 1960. However, it is not considered particularly collectible today. So I would price a watch like that in terms of the gold value. You estimated about 19 grams of 18K gold. Hopefully, that is without the movement, crystal, stem and crown, none of which are gold.

Current price of 19g of 18K gold is a little over $2,200. I’d add about $50 for the original dial and $100 for the movement parts.

So if you paid more than $2,400, you probably overpaid.
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I doubt there is 19g after movement, dial, etc. More like 12g-14g, IMO. The OP may not know how much an auto-winding movement and dial weigh. I have been doing this calculation a lot recently.

Given the condition of the watch, I would have been tempted at $1500, but not at $2000. I like the dial, but the condition of the case case is unappealing.
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think the gold value will increase.
I think you have a 50/50 chance of being correct in the near term. In the long term, no idea.
 
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I doubt there is 19g after movement, dial, etc. More like 12g-14g, IMO. The OP may not know how much an auto-winding movement and dial weigh. I have been doing this calculation a lot recently.

Given the condition of the watch, I would have been tempted at $1500, but not at $2000. I like the dial, but the condition of the case case is unappealing.
This is the calculation from chatgpt:
Total weight: 42.7 grams
Strap weight: Leather strap + buckle ≈ 12 g Movement weight: Omega caliber 491 ≈ 10.5 g
Crystal + crown + small parts ≈ 1.5 g

42.7 - 12 - 10.5 - 1.5 = 18.7 grams 18kg gold

I'll have the watchmaker weigh this next week.
 
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It does, but probably not as much as you think.

Omega’s Tresor line was one of their better lines when originally sold around 1960. However, it is not considered particularly collectible today. So I would price a watch like that in terms of the gold value. You estimated about 19 grams of 18K gold. Hopefully, that is without the movement, crystal, stem and crown, none of which are gold.

Current price of 19g of 18K gold is a little over $2,200. I’d add about $50 for the original dial and $100 for the movement parts.

So if you paid more than $2,400, you probably overpaid.
gatorcpa
Based on your reasoning, I might have overpaid. At least I got a nice watch in return and paid for the learning costs😅
 
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Knowing how well built some of these cases are, there is just about a chance there is 18g present. From the front it looks dainty but the side view of the lugs suggests to me it isn't lightly built. Be aware though that sometimes there is a brass ring round the movement, if that is the case then you are back maybe 2-3g for that. I do think I see the tell-tale 'METAL' mark on the ring which indicates it is not gold. Perhaps 15-17g is a better estimate for the gold weight.

One aspect you can check quickly is the weight of the caseback. On 1950s gold Seamasters the back alone can weigh 8g but this one doesn't seem to be a waterproof design so is likely more lightly built than the fat lugs. Those have cases weighing 22-24g.

ps note you have missed the dial weight off your calcs above. I would put the non gold parts such as the crown, hands, dial, clamps, crystal higher than 1.5g...
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Knowing how well built some of these cases are, there is just about a chance there is 18g present. From the front it looks dainty but the side view of the lug and suggest to me it isn't lightly built. Be aware though that sometimes there is a brass ring round the movement, if that is the case then you are back maybe 2-3g for that. I do think I see the tell-tale 'METAL' mark on the ring which indicates it is not gold. Perhaps 15-17g is a better estimate for the gold weight.

One aspect you can check quickly is the weight of the caseback. On 1950s gold Seamasters the back alone can weigh 8g but this one doesn't seem to be a waterproof design so is likely more lightly built than the fat lugs. Those have cases weighing 22-24g.

ps note you have missed the dial weight off your calcs above. I would put the non gold parts such as the crown, hands, dial, clamps, crystal higher than 1.5g...
I appreciate the input Padders. According to chatGPT the dial is calculated within the non gold parts, but offcourse we shouldn’t go by what A.I. says… That’s what I asked this tread because I know there are some experts here that I trust more than what A.I. says
 
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Correct, this dial is not gold. And also, AI is terrible with vintage watches, ChatGPT especially.
 
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A member posted a photo of a 55x/56x movement on a scale a while back. A dial typically weighs between 3-4g, so the total weigh would be about 16g.