Omega 168.005 Constellation dial and case

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Daniel Mihalache

·Aug 1, 2023

Hello everyone.
Can you help me with the authenticity of these items? Dial is original or a redone? Case is legit?
I sourced them from an ebay seller. Is this 564 ok with a ref. 168.005?
Thank you very much. Every comment is appreciated.

 

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Peemacgee

·Aug 1, 2023

It's a little bit difficult to fully follow the question but.... assuming you acquired the case and movt/dial from a seller/sellers but they weren't fitted together and are asking does the dial/movt fit the case.

The case looks legit (but it would be more helpful if the 'holder' didn't have their thumb on the important inner case back info)
The dial looks legit
the 564 movt looks legit

However, without knowing the origin of the dial/movt, it is impossible to say with all certainty that they fit a 168.005 case.

The dial and movt could come from a late 168.004 or 168.010 references, in which case the dial will not fit a 168.005 case.
It all depends on dial size.

 

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Daniel Mihalache

·Aug 2, 2023

Hello. Thanks for the reply.
That is correct, the two parts are separated.
The dial has the outer diameter of approx. 29.5mm and a "second" diameter of 28mm.. it has a step immediately after the exterior.. as if that circle would fit inside the case bezel or that metal insert from the crystal.
I hope i made myself clear.. sorry for my bad english..
I m attaching a photo with the inside of the case.

Thank you.
Ps. The movement is already acquired (in my drawer). The case is not payed and arrived yet... That s why i m asking these questions. And the wristwatch is for my personal use.. is not intended for resale or anything.

 

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Peemacgee

·Aug 2, 2023

One thing I have never recorded is dial size for each reference (I really should)
So, paging a couple of grandees who may have that info for you.
@hoipolloi & @gatorcpa

 

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Daniel Mihalache

·Aug 2, 2023

Thanks! Looking forward for their input.

 

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gatorcpa

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Peemacgee

One thing I have never recorded is dial size for each reference (I really should)
So, paging a couple of grandees who may have that info for you.
@hoipolloi & @gatorcpa

I don’t have this type of information.
gatorcpa

 

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Daniel Mihalache

·Aug 2, 2023

So in conclusion, dial is original, movement looks ok and case is not faked... The marriage in between is to be verified by assembly of the watch in the case. Is that correct?

 

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Peemacgee

·Aug 2, 2023

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So in conclusion, dial is original, movement looks ok and case is not faked... The marriage in between is to be verified by assembly of the watch in the case. Is that correct?

That’s about the long and short of it.

 

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Daniel Mihalache

·Aug 3, 2023

One more thing.. is there something special about those chamfered lume markers? I don.t see them very often.. gold? Brass?
Thanks!

 

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Peemacgee

·Aug 4, 2023

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One more thing.. is there something special about those chamfered lume markers? I don.t see them very often.. gold? Brass?
Thanks!

They are one type of indices used on various Constellation references, with full luminous ‘inserts’ instead of luminous pips.
They are less common than the usual pips.

The body of each index will be solid gold.

 

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Daniel Mihalache

·Aug 4, 2023

Thanks for the info!