Omega 1010/22 series mainspring

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Hi,
On the Omega 1010-22 series.
I am always having difficult with either using the original mainspring to place in the barrel. I either use a mainspring winder (swiss) or walk it back in. Most of the time it warps in the winder or get bad results from walking it in. I also have trouble with new ones as the diameter of the new spring seems larger than the inside of the barrel and flies off and gets warped/tangled thus broken. Can anyone suggest help with this issue please.
 
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Moved to the watchmaking topic as its probably @Archer who can best answer this one, they are a pretty slim calibre those 101x/102x
 
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Hi,
On the Omega 1010-22 series.
I am always having difficult with either using the original mainspring to place in the barrel. I either use a mainspring winder (swiss) or walk it back in. Most of the time it warps in the winder or get bad results from walking it in. I also have trouble with new ones as the diameter of the new spring seems larger than the inside of the barrel and flies off and gets warped/tangled thus broken. Can anyone suggest help with this issue please.
In general, winding springs in by hand is not a good idea, as it is likely to distort the spring.

New springs from Omega fit the barrel fine, so they can be pressed directly into the barrel without issue, so this is likely due to the spring being aftermarket and not really designed specifically for this barrel.

Using a winder shouldn't distort the spring at all, so if it is there's likely something in your technique that is causing that. Maybe you could describe what you do in some detail and I can help determine where it might be going wrong. Keep in mind that you need to use care when removing the spring from the ring in the first place, because that can distort the spring if you are not careful.
 
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In general, winding springs in by hand is not a good idea, as it is likely to distort the spring.

New springs from Omega fit the barrel fine, so they can be pressed directly into the barrel without issue, so this is likely due to the spring being aftermarket and not really designed specifically for this barrel.

Using a winder shouldn't distort the spring at all, so if it is there's likely something in your technique that is causing that. Maybe you could describe what you do in some detail and I can help determine where it might be going wrong. Keep in mind that you need to use care when removing the spring from the ring in the first place, because that can distort the spring if you are not careful.
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The aftermarket would explain one of the problems. The main problem i have is with the winder. The barrel seems too deep for the height of the 1010 mainspring, so it overlaps or doesnt sit level, so when i take the arbor off. The mainspring sits on top of itself.
 
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Hi,
The aftermarket would explain one of the problems. The main problem i have is with the winder. The barrel seems too deep for the height of the 1010 mainspring, so it overlaps or doesnt sit level, so when i take the arbor off. The mainspring sits on top of itself.
It is a thin spring, but I don't believe I've ever had this sort of thing happen.

Is it happening as you wind the spring in, or when you try to remove the arbor?

If it's the latter, then make sure you turn the arbor backwards to release the hook, then I hold the spring in place with tweezers as I lift the arbor out.
 
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It is a thin spring, but I don't believe I've ever had this sort of thing happen.

Is it happening as you wind the spring in, or when you try to remove the arbor?

If it's the latter, then make sure you turn the arbor backwards to release the hook, then I hold the spring in place with tweezers as I lift the arbor out.
I believe it happens both, when winding in and removing the arbor. I guess I need to work on my technique when dealing with mainsprings and the winder