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Old Omega gold help identifying
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaT Theo12Hi. Thanks for your help in advance.
Looking to identify my grandfathers old gold watch he passed down to me. Was also curious as to the value ? It’s still in good condition and works. I know it hasn’t been worn in over 40 years but you can tell it’s been used before a bit.
Thanks all!
I'm puzzled.
It all seems to be genuine Omega, but this is the first time I've ever seen the traditional "tells" of a fake Omega on the outside of the caseback.
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According to the poinçon de maître, the case was made by Joseph Erard SA based in Le Noirmont.
I'm interested to hear from others.
Dinner is nearly on the table so I have to depart.
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Geezer
·The dial and movement were made by Omega.
I'm not sure the case is original to the rest of the watch, although it does appear to be 18k.
It appears that the lugs at 12 o'clock side are severely bent.
The value is probably the melt value of the case (10 grams of 18k) plus whatever you can get for the movement and dial.
Note that the ratchet wheel screw seems to be lost. If the ratchet wheel falls off it will instantly release all energy from the mainspring. This can do quite a bit of damage. I suggest you let the watch run down and get it repaired before you start wearing it.
Other info you can find in replies to your previous post:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/identifying-this-old-18k-gold-omega.151385/
I'm not sure the case is original to the rest of the watch, although it does appear to be 18k.
It appears that the lugs at 12 o'clock side are severely bent.
The value is probably the melt value of the case (10 grams of 18k) plus whatever you can get for the movement and dial.
Note that the ratchet wheel screw seems to be lost. If the ratchet wheel falls off it will instantly release all energy from the mainspring. This can do quite a bit of damage. I suggest you let the watch run down and get it repaired before you start wearing it.
Other info you can find in replies to your previous post:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/identifying-this-old-18k-gold-omega.151385/
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Geezer
·It's probably real gold, but there is very little material there. It would not surprise me if the lugs are hollow.
By the way, the case seems to cover the minute markers on the dial which increases my suspicion that this is a marriage of parts.
By the way, the case seems to cover the minute markers on the dial which increases my suspicion that this is a marriage of parts.
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Peemacgee
·A pic of the inside of the case back might help.
IIRC Swiss gold cases should have hallmarks on two of the lugs.
The expanding spring bar on the bracelet appears to have eaten into a couple of the lugs - if it has, probably easiest to check here to see if the lugs are solid gold.
IIRC Swiss gold cases should have hallmarks on two of the lugs.
The expanding spring bar on the bracelet appears to have eaten into a couple of the lugs - if it has, probably easiest to check here to see if the lugs are solid gold.
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bardamu
·The case is not original imho.
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Geezer
·It looks like the lug near 10 o'clock received a big shock and was deformed. I think this jammed the bracelet into the other lug.
As mentioned, I think the lugs look hollow and the case looks flimsy. Similar to the typical "Chronographe Suisse" cases, which often only had hallmarks on the outside of the caseback.
As mentioned, I think the lugs look hollow and the case looks flimsy. Similar to the typical "Chronographe Suisse" cases, which often only had hallmarks on the outside of the caseback.
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Pvt-Public
·Note that the ratchet wheel screw seems to be lost.
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lucian23
·I think this was a recased watch. Omega never mark outside the case and from the pictures the marks looks prety sharp so i think the case was from other swiss watch..
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bikerfox
·so, what did you surmise from the other posters' remarks?
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Franco
·It was customary up the 50s and 60s to buy a watch with a steelcase, and after some years get a casemaker to make one in gold. In those years in each town (at least in Italy) there was some goldsmiths who could make gold watch cases.
Where did your grandfather live in those years? The presence of what look like the Helvetia hallmark would seem to mean that t was done in Switzerland. The casemaker symbol n. 161 indicates Joseph Erard of Le Noirmont (in the Jura mountains). Also, is the inside back unlabelled? That would support the casemaker theory.
Where did your grandfather live in those years? The presence of what look like the Helvetia hallmark would seem to mean that t was done in Switzerland. The casemaker symbol n. 161 indicates Joseph Erard of Le Noirmont (in the Jura mountains). Also, is the inside back unlabelled? That would support the casemaker theory.
