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i only buy limited editions so no fakers possibilities
 
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The shiny hands and wide bezel were a tell for me. Just shows that the fakes are getting better 😲

How much?!?
 
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I’d imagine the chrono hand ‘ticks’ as the second hand also.
 
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The easiest "tell" for me is the position of the pushers. They are always too far apart on the fakes.
 
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I didn't get past the bezel, I know when to quit.
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As others have said, this is the one of the “best” fakes that is out there, but it still has obvious tells. The main one is the sub dial distance, indicating it doesn’t have the correct movement. The second is the 6 o’clock sub-dial that should be telling the elapsed hours. Notice how it is at about 6:30, the same as the hour/minutes hands on the watch? That’s because the movement is only a 30 minute counter and that “hour” counter sundial just mimics the main time. A pretty useless function, but common in some 30 minute quartz chrono movements (Seiko makes some that come to mind).
 
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As others have said, this is the one of the “best” fakes that is out there, but it still has obvious tells.

The better fakes use a Lemania movement...
 
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Yeah for me the first thing that jumped out was subdial spacing.
Then the short hands, then the weird bezel.
Also, the chrono hour subdial is certainly "creeping" .
 
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the wonky minute track? seconds track? chapter ring was the give away to me
 
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At very first blush it looked good then it took me a moment to sense it looked more like a reduced dial.

Glad I got this, as a new guy, but these pop quizzes are no fun lol
 
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So to me the number one tell is always the length of the indices next to the subdials. I've yet to see a fake that doesn't have these 3 shorter than the rest. There's lots else wrong with this, but that is always the first thing I look at. Works well for IDing a fake Speedy Pro, but not so well on a fake Speedy reduced.

Unlike every other watch it seems, there's never been a common Speedy fake that couldn't be ID'd as fake in seconds. This isn't to say that you couldn't get burned by an assemblage out of parts with a Lemania movement, but I don't think that these are being mass produced.
 
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For me the most obvious fake indication are short indices on 3 6 and 9, and then of course the position of subdials
 
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If you zoom on the photo, it's interesting. It's a stepped dial which would allude to it being a pre -71. DNN but then the lume and the hands are way too shiny and look poor. The bezel is also perfectly faded without a scratch on it. I thought it was a franken at first glance.
 
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If you zoom on the photo, it's interesting. It's a stepped dial which would allude to it being a pre -71. DNN but then the lume and the hands are way too shiny and look poor. The bezel is also perfectly faded without a scratch on it. I thought it was a franken at first glance.


A step dial professional with Luminova is always suspect.
 
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As a couple others have stated already, the spacing between the sub-dials is the dead giveaway. I’ve read that’s the hardest thing for a fake to replicate.

The case and bracelet to me look almost genuine. Contours, surface finishes, etc. Maybe this is a clone attempt using a legit shell?
 
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But doesn’t the “ghost bezel” make it grail?? 🥰
 
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Does anyone else think the crown & pusher just look too cheap? Seems like the crown should be sharper.