Oh my god, I bought a speedy. (back on my wrist!)

noiseboyuk · Feb 21, 2017

Looks like a lovely watch but the 'modified' numbers are a bit of a concern.

I can't think of any reason to do this other than to cover up a 'misdemeanor'.

harrymai86 · Feb 21, 2017

Why why the dial is amazing, the case hands and 220 bezel as well.

Such a pity !! Seller should provide more history of the watch, you should have a conversation with him first.

rcs914 · Feb 21, 2017

Yeah, this is all about how much you spent. While I agree that it is a bit disappointing, I'm not sure it would be a dealbreaker looking at the watch otherwise. Of course if you spent top dollar, then it would be. But if this was around $4K I'd say you did pretty well.

jimmyd13 · Feb 21, 2017

Dial, case, bezel - great. Hands - just look a little white (the camera?) ... that serial number - it's bang on for the watch so my two-penn'th: has the bridge been replaced and the original number inscribed over the replacement? Obviously the factory would never do that ... but would a jeweller or watchmaker back in the day if the watch was returned with a fault when relatively new?

jimmyd13 · Feb 21, 2017

Just another for reference:

tamura · Feb 21, 2017

Thanks again.
I payed 4000 usd. The watch is on the way back.🙁
Another movement picture.

HiddeninAihara · Feb 21, 2017

Keep everything original, don't replace the crystal!

TNTwatch · Feb 21, 2017

tamura
Thanks again.
I payed 4000 usd. The watch is on the way back.🙁
Another movement picture.

Oh no! Did you read the links by CanberraOmega or this specific post: https://omegaforums.net/threads/thoughts-on-seamster-cal-562.7835/#post-92565?

Beside the unique 220 bezel (not counting the highly valuable brown dial), I agree with the opinion that the drilled out serial is another unique piece in the history of Omega. Your watch fits perfectly in the period of the story.

Seems nobody else in this thread read it either ::facepalm1::

oddboy · Feb 21, 2017

Good story! Keep the watch!

Cal_321 · Feb 22, 2017

Hm, shouldn't be blank metal visible if the numbers were drilled after production? Or is this not visible at the movement shot?

tamura · Feb 22, 2017

TNTwatch
Oh no! Did you read the links by CanberraOmega or this specific post: https://omegaforums.net/threads/thoughts-on-seamster-cal-562.7835/#post-92565?

Beside the unique 220 bezel (not counting the highly valuable brown dial), I agree with the opinion that the drilled out serial is another unique piece in the history of Omega. Your watch fits perfectly in the period of the story.
Seems nobody else in this thread read it either

I think it technically does not fit - it is very poor done and only at two numbers. Even if it fits in the period, there are also watches stolen in that time. My watchmaker would not accept the watch too. That feeling, wearing a watch that maybe someone else is missing, hold me back. I would love to find a way keeping this watch,but.....
Tamura

Igora · Feb 22, 2017

Dont return watch, I would keep it !

ashleysteadman · Feb 22, 2017

Interstellar17
Keep everything original, don't replace the crystal!

Replacing a crystal doesn't affect the value like it does to replace hands/bezels/dials etc. No reason not to replace it - it's a standard part to be replaced with hesalite/acrylic crystal watches. That being said, this particular watch is going back to the seller so it's a moot point 😉

watchlovr · Feb 22, 2017

Too late now but possibly you should have offered the watch here for the price you paid plus your costs.
There would have been interest. That dial is lovely.

tamura · Feb 22, 2017

I am surprised for how many it does not matter whether a watch is maybe stolen, as long as it is not theirs.😲

jurisevac@ · Feb 22, 2017

"everybody think", for you is a stole watch, and for somebody else good watch,depends upon your thoughts and feelings and expectations for a object you want,to me that you have returned used watch because it has history of issue speak for itself.

TNTwatch · Feb 22, 2017

tamura
I think it technically does not fit - it is very poor done and only at two numbers. Even if it fits in the period, there are also watches stolen in that time. My watchmaker would not accept the watch too. That feeling, wearing a watch that maybe someone else is missing, hold me back. I would love to find a way keeping this watch,but.....
Tamura

The numbers have not been completely erased so it's not likely a stolen watch. Also I think there are more than 2 numbers drilled out, looks like 5 of them. They can still be read or guessed so an Extract can possibly be obtained.

Speedmasterfan88 · Feb 22, 2017

I'm seriously amazed by some of the comments here..

Please take a look again at the pics provided by OP and the other comparison pictures in this thread. The numbers merely resemble the refined stamping we see on the other pictures plus some of them resemble more of a blob than an actual stamping... what's with the last number? Supposed to be a 2 I guess? What do you think happened here? The stamping machine at Lemania/Omega had a bad day? A few to many drinks the night before? Someone at omega restamped this part by hand? And then there are the drilled out numbers...

I'm not jumping on the conclusion that the watch was maybe stolen, as therefore I would believe someone would drill all the numbers clear out.

But this part of the movement has at least been tempered with and therefore the watch for me would be a no go except if I wanted to strip it for parts.

It's a shame as the dial is wonderfull, case seems sharp and 220 bezel is a nice plus, but I think OP did good with returning the watch.

Cal_321 · Feb 22, 2017

ashleysteadman
Replacing a crystal doesn't affect the value like it does to replace hands/bezels/dials etc. No reason not to replace it - it's a standard part to be replaced with hesalite/acrylic crystal watches. That being said, this particular watch is going back to the seller so it's a moot point 😉

Sorry, but I (personally) don't agree ;-) If I like to have a 100% original watch it has to have a period correct crystal. But I think the 69 crytals are easier to get than an early flat feet crystal...

TNTwatch · Feb 22, 2017

Speedmasterfan88
I'm seriously amazed by some of the comments here..

Please take a look again at the pics provided by OP and the other comparison pictures in this thread. The numbers merely resemble the refined stamping we see on the other pictures plus some of them resemble more of a blob than an actual stamping... what's with the last number? Supposed to be a 2 I guess? What do you think happened here? The stamping machine at Lemania/Omega had a bad day? A few to many drinks the night before? Someone at omega restamped this part by hand? And then there are the drilled out numbers...

I'm not jumping on the conclusion that the watch was maybe stolen, as therefore I would believe someone would drill all the numbers clear out.

But this part of the movement has at least been tempered with and therefore the watch for me would be a no go except if I wanted to strip it for parts.

It's a shame as the dial is wonderfull, case seems sharp and 220 bezel is a nice plus, but I think OP did good with returning the watch.

Is it that hard to see that the other numbers have been drilled out too?

If you're not concluding it's a stolen watch, then is it that hard to think it fits into the other story of the drilled out serial numbers? Or is it that hard to follow the links to read that story?

Oh my god, I bought a speedy. (back on my wrist!)

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harrymai86

rcs914

jimmyd13

jimmyd13

tamura

HiddeninAihara

TNTwatch

oddboy

Cal_321

tamura

Igora

ashleysteadman

watchlovr

tamura

jurisevac@

TNTwatch

Speedmasterfan88

Cal_321

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