October 5th 2020 - Snoopy Celebration

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LOL. Since Rolex is private company owned by a charity, we will never know what the true supply is.

Technically speaking, Rolex brand(s) and manufactures are owned by a "Fondation", not a charity. It's different in many ways.
 
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Omega is all about money.
Rolex is all about maintaining value and the brand.

Omega is all about serving their customers.
Rolex is all about jerking their customers around.
 
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If you ask me, I think they’ve been slowly decreasing supply since 2015 which was the last year COSC (or whatever organization it was that certified watches) releases the amount of watches certified. I think Rolex was in the 800k range in 2015. I don’t think they decreases supply drastically but just enough to remove excess inventory and then Brexit hit causing a frenzy in the UK which then spread everywhere else. My guess is they’ve cut maybe 10% since 2015 while demand has increased significantly. Of course I have nothing to back up my claim so take it for what it’s worth.

They could still be making the same number of watches (or more) but could simply change the mix of what they are making to create this issue, or alternately solve it.
 
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They could still be making the same number of watches (or more) but could simply change the mix of what they are making to create this issue, or alternately solve it.
They could be doing that too. With the SS shortages forcing prices up, people are thinking why pay $20k for a Sub when I can just pay $35k for a gold Sub and potentially get on the list for other watches.
 
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I am hearing tantalum, 48 mm case, 19 mm thickness $37,000

actually... tantalume- fully luminescent tantalum Snoopy
 
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The green piece of paper they are traded for.

But where is the link between buying a watch at 2.5 times retail and houses in California, sure a property in town is going to be more expensive than a property out of town but that applies in any country.
 
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I am hearing tantalum, 48 mm case, 19 mm thickness $37,000

actually... tantalume- fully luminescent tantalum Snoopy

Hearing voices could be a sign of intoxication. Predicting a 48mm case is a proof of intoxication.
 
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I visited my OB today and asked if they were taking deposits for the Snoopy. None, they said. Then they asked me if I was interested to buy their last stock of the SM300 Trilogy. Tough choices to make in the next week or so...
 
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Not all POS are the same. A sale to an AD vs a sale to a final customer through an Omega boutique wouldn’t get you the same data. Warranty activation basically means end sale to a customer so that’s a better gauge of demand of a product vs a POS to an AD. Once a product is sold to an AD, Omega may not have access to final through sale to customer.

Ahh ok that makes sense. So ADs take complete inventory risk? What happens if they order 10 watches and can only sell 1? Does Omega provide any back end inventory assistance or are they on their own to liquidate?
 
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Ahh ok that makes sense. So ADs take complete inventory risk? What happens if they order 10 watches and can only sell 1? Does Omega provide any back end inventory assistance or are they on their own to liquidate?
Depends on the AD’s contracts with Omega. I’m sure bigger AD’s have more leverage vs a small one location AD.

A few years ago, Cartier bought back several hundred million$ of watches from their network and had them destroyed to remove excess inventory.
 
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But where is the link between buying a watch at 2.5 times retail and houses in California, sure a property in town is going to be more expensive than a property out of town but that applies in any country.

The link is that people can spend their money as they deem fit. To some, anything over a timex is overpriced. To some, 2.5x over retail is overpriced. As with real estate (any anything else that can be bought), watches/watch prices are all relative.

Not trying to be argumentative here. At the end of the day it’s just a watch. Does it really how much or how little someone spends on it? Does it really matter how much or how little someone spends on anything? In my personal opinion the answer is no, to each their own, and who am I to judge someone for how much or how little they spend on something.
 
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Ahh ok that makes sense. So ADs take complete inventory risk? What happens if they order 10 watches and can only sell 1? Does Omega provide any back end inventory assistance or are they on their own to liquidate?

See my post from earlier on.
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Ahh ok that makes sense. So ADs take complete inventory risk? What happens if they order 10 watches and can only sell 1? Does Omega provide any back end inventory assistance or are they on their own to liquidate?

Out the back door to the grey market, typically...
 
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Technically speaking, Rolex brand(s) and manufactures are owned by a "Fondation", not a charity. It's different in many ways.

To be clear, Rolex is owned by the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation, a trust, whose function is to operate a number of charities.

Per an article on Bob’s watches, “...The plain fact of the matter is Rolex is actually a series of companies headed up by Rolex S.A. And in fact, just to further complicate things, some of those companies own portions of each other. But basically they all funnel into Rolex S.A., which in turn, is wholly owned by the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation. That foundation is recognized by the Swiss government as a charitable trust, and thus, pays no taxes.”

https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-blog/resources/rolex-non-profit.html
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To be clear, Rolex is owned by the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation, a trust, whose function is to operate a number of charities.

Per an article on Bob’s watches, “...The plain fact of the matter is Rolex is actually a series of companies headed up by Rolex S.A. And in fact, just to further complicate things, some of those companies own portions of each other. But basically they all funnel into Rolex S.A., which in turn, is wholly owned by the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation. That foundation is recognized by the Swiss government as a charitable trust, and thus, pays no taxes.”

https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-blog/resources/rolex-non-profit.html

On the subject of Rolex being charitable, if I remember correctly, there aren't any requirements for Rolex to even donate any amount of their profits to qualify as a charitable foundation. There also isn't even any proof that they do any philanthropic work.
 
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On the subject of Rolex being charitable, if I remember correctly, there aren't any requirements for Rolex to even donate any amount of their profits to qualify as a charitable foundation. There also isn't even any proof that they do any philanthropic work.
They “donate” money to F1 and a bunch of other sporting events.
 
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To be clear, Rolex is owned by the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation, a trust, whose function is to operate a number of charities.

Per an article on Bob’s watches, “...The plain fact of the matter is Rolex is actually a series of companies headed up by Rolex S.A. And in fact, just to further complicate things, some of those companies own portions of each other. But basically they all funnel into Rolex S.A., which in turn, is wholly owned by the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation. That foundation is recognized by the Swiss government as a charitable trust, and thus, pays no taxes.”

https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-blog/resources/rolex-non-profit.html

They probably donate vast sums of money to charities and may operate some of their own, so do many corporates or individuals. But the Foundation is not a charity.
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They “donate” money to F1 and a bunch of other sporting events.
To be honest, it's not even "donating." It's just marketing.
 
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could have sworn the title of the original post was October 5th 2020 - Snoopy Celebration, must have got lost in translation somewhere too much chat about non related topics over the last few pages 🙄 October 5th can't come quick enough for me so at least this post might get back on track 👍
 
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could have sworn the title of the original post was October 5th 2020 - Snoopy Celebration, must have got lost in translation somewhere too much chat about non related topics over the last few pages 🙄 October 5th can't come quick enough for me so at least this post might get back on track 👍
Has anyone seen the watch?