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October 5th 2020 - Snoopy Celebration

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I'm so lost and confused! Why is everyone fighting? I haven't read the full thread as it has blown up a bit, but I don't really understand why anyone should share a receipt online to strangers? Let's all cheers and be excited for what is to come! ::rimshot::😀😎

He's part of the ridiculous conspiracy crowd here who think that nothing from the mouths of OBs can be trusted, and thus anything that one of us hears from them is pure speculation. Unless, of course you can produce a receipt lol.

At least he was kind enough to remind you to redact your personal details!
 
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What are you basing your opinion off of though? There are people coming out on both extremes of the range of possibilities, either saying "demand is out the roof, supply is gonna be super low, this watch is going to be super hard to get and way above MSRP," or "Omega is going to flood the market and tank the value of this watch" (which it seems like is what you're saying). Both are pretty extreme outcomes and my question is what gives you confidence that it'll be something that extreme rather than something more reasonable in the middle?

Why would you think that Omega wants to flood the market with watches and have market value be 50% of MSRP? If anything, the fact that they're switching their big releases over to OB priority rather than AD priority over the past few years (e.g. I got the Spectre Seamaster LE pretty easily from an AD when it came out, vs. the NTTD seamaster my AD said they were basically in the dark to how many they'd be getting while I had two separate OBs reach out to me asking if I wanted one) points in the opposite direction, that they want more control over the pricing of their watches and want better value retention compared to MSRP. And perhaps the strongest evidence against your claim that Omega will push this well below the MSRP price, look at other limited production watches like Apollo 8, no time to die seamaster, ed white 321. If Omega was really about squeezing their watches to the limit in order to maximize near term revenue then wouldn't market values of those watches have dropped meaningfully below MSRP (which they haven't)?

Maybe I'm totally wrong on this but my guess is a lot of people making these extreme claims don't have a lot of experience with Omega and are just guessing based off of what they've heard secondhand. I think that looking at Omega's track record, the available info we do have, and combining that with a bit of logical reasoning and a healthy dose of caution (because what we don't know is much more than what we do know) is a better choice compared to making wild speculative guesses based off of very little.
the new Bond watch can easily be found cheaper
 
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What are you basing your opinion off of though? There are people coming out on both extremes of the range of possibilities, either saying "demand is out the roof, supply is gonna be super low, this watch is going to be super hard to get and way above MSRP," or "Omega is going to flood the market and tank the value of this watch" (which it seems like is what you're saying). Both are pretty extreme outcomes and my question is what gives you confidence that it'll be something that extreme rather than something more reasonable in the middle?

Why would you think that Omega wants to flood the market with watches and have market value be 50% of MSRP? If anything, the fact that they're switching their big releases over to OB priority rather than AD priority over the past few years (e.g. I got the Spectre Seamaster LE pretty easily from an AD when it came out, vs. the NTTD seamaster my AD said they were basically in the dark to how many they'd be getting while I had two separate OBs reach out to me asking if I wanted one) points in the opposite direction, that they want more control over the pricing of their watches and want better value retention compared to MSRP. And perhaps the strongest evidence against your claim that Omega will push this well below the MSRP price, look at other limited production watches like Apollo 8, no time to die seamaster, ed white 321. If Omega was really about squeezing their watches to the limit in order to maximize near term revenue then wouldn't market values of those watches have dropped meaningfully below MSRP (which they haven't)?

Maybe I'm totally wrong on this but my guess is a lot of people making these extreme claims don't have a lot of experience with Omega and are just guessing based off of what they've heard secondhand. I think that looking at Omega's track record, the available info we do have, and combining that with a bit of logical reasoning and a healthy dose of caution (because what we don't know is much more than what we do know) is a better choice compared to making wild speculative guesses based off of very little.

I agree will be somewhere in between. Was also thinking that the high MSRP point likely indicates they aren't going to to flood the market. If they really wanted to milk it, they would've dropped the price a bit to bump the top line. Without a hard stop they have no incentive to produce really limited quantities (<5k) either.
 
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the new Bond watch can easily be found cheaper

I dont think that's correct its rarely at my ad and even if they do pop up they refuse to discount them due demand. Also most are selling above msrp on chronos.

Can you please clarify where you can get this watch cheaper?
 
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the new Bond watch can easily be found cheaper
From where? Best I've seen was one seller here selling about 10% lower than MSRP. Everywhere else I've seen is MSRP at OB's or higher on chrono24.
 
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What's to come is endless whining and complaining because their Snoopy hasn't arrived yet: so and so got theirs and I didn't get mine even though I paid in full and he didn't, etc, etc, etc.

Just wait until someone who is away from home, deposit paid, waiting for the call, gets dragged round the shops by significant other and sees the watch in the case at an AD/OB.

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I dont think that's correct its rarely at my ad and even if they do pop up they refuse to discount them due demand. Also most are selling above msrp on chronos.

Can you please clarify where you can get this watch cheaper?

on Chrono24 there are several cheaper than the official price

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This thread was more exciting before the release.

I'm surprised the thread is still going, not sure why a lot of the posts are not on the new Snoopy watch thread now it's been announced.
 
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But why the heck no one seems interested by the Lume on this watch.
The previous Snoopy was incredible in the dark. What about this one ?

The lume on this one is similar to the Apollo 11 50th. It serves its purpose but does not put on a show. Very understated compared to Snoopy version 2 or even ST1. It looks to me that Omega made silver more prominent. Let's wait until we see it in person. Lume looks cool but it dies after a few minutes. Omega definitely chose to highlight the metal and the laser engraving... There's no way to do both, right?
 
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on Chrono24 there are several cheaper than the official price

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What's the official price on a NATO in Spain?
 
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on Chrono24 there are several cheaper than the official price

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Cherry picking two examples on chrono24 that are ~10% lower than MSRP is a pretty far cry from "Omega pushing prices well below MSRP." As others have mentioned, ADs for the most part have refused to discount, the main grey market online sellers have not discounted, that's in sharp contrast with watches that clearly trade well below MSRP. Doesn't do much to refute the broader point.
 
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I'm sorry if you feel offended but if paid my deposit and remainder in full I would more than happily post a copy of my redacted (NO PERSONAL DETAILS INCLUDED) receipt on here just to prove all the doubters and conspiracy theorists wrong.

It would be useful to stop and help to stop all of the BS and silly arguments that are going on here 😀

I never said i'd paid in full just that i'd been asked to pay the 20% deposit of which i duly obliged, i agree there is a lot of BS on here atm and some are on here probably just to wind others up 🤨 but it was you who has questioned the details in my post.

I spoke today to the very helpful lady that i've been dealing with at the OB to confirm they had received my payment and email with my address details etc who said once she had got confirmation from head office of my payment she will forward me a receipt of my payment and my order for the watch, she did say they'd had a lot of interest for the watch, a lot more than usual but she expects my watch to arrive sometime early next year to which i replied, fine I'm in no hurry and it'll come when it does and that I'm not one of those to be the first one to 'must have the watch' 🤨

Asking someone to share a receipt as proof of paying for something details deleted or not is one of the "silliest" things iv'e ever been asked to do to prove to someone i've never met who knows nothing about me that i've paid a deposit for a watch but once said watch arrives i will post a picture if you like 👍 although i would think be then this thread will be long forgotten about 😉
 
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This thread was more exciting before the release.
Isn't that part of the fun or hunt though, the buildup, anticipation and excitement of something that interests you?

A number, including myself were expecting an A13 50th release in April then the info came out of an announcement due on 5th October.

For me, born after these amazing feats were undertaken now more than 50 years ago feel fortunate, first to be in a position to purchase such a luxury item but also in also what is being celebrated which could still be argued as a pinnacle of human achievement.

I also believe we are on the verge of the next steps in space exploration, within our lifetimes? Omega can still boast of being the first watch worn on the moon but I'm unsure how many more pieces, limited or not, can be created celebrating those achievements as current projects come to pass and possibly progress further?
 
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Cherry picking two examples on chrono24 that are ~10% lower than MSRP is a pretty far cry from "Omega pushing prices well below MSRP." As others have mentioned, ADs for the most part have refused to discount, the main grey market online sellers have not discounted, that's in sharp contrast with watches that clearly trade well below MSRP. Doesn't do much to refute the broader point.

Exactly, 6.5% drop secondhand isn't cheaper to me.
 
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In Spain and many places in Europe the Omega Bond with a titanium bracelet costs € 9,000
 
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In Spain and many places in Europe the Omega Bond with a titanium bracelet costs € 9,000

UK, it's £7,880... after the recent 6% increase.... some of those suggested adverts on C24 may have been created prior to the increase. The overall trend on C24 doesn't display a massive drop in values and the film has been bumped twice which I suspect may perk interest again.
 
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In Spain and many places in Europe the Omega Bond with a titanium bracelet costs € 9,000
Point being majority on chronos atleast on the first page are selling for above or equal msrp. Come on please go take an average price.
 
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