October 5th 2020 - Snoopy Celebration

rafabond · Oct 7, 2020

I've been following this thread from the beginning, Omega will never resemble Rolex in terms of quick investment of its models. Omega will produce this Snoopy until sales drop and the AD or OB display cases are down. At first there will be a premium on the gray market, due to the novelty, but it will decrease until, in my opinion, this will be well below the MSRP price. Omega is very fond of money and will squeeze this Snoopy to the limit. I understand that many people are in a hurry to have it and afraid to stay if the clock, calm ... there will be for everyone and many more.

DT1066 · Oct 7, 2020

dscoogs
It’s going to be between RJ and George Clooney 😁

if you mean Robert Downey I know he has a hulk

DT1066 · Oct 7, 2020

harrymai86
Maybe a stupid question but any chance the caseback animation glows in the dark 😁

the glow in the dark case back is only aval to people who deposited through OBs

Boony · Oct 7, 2020

Bp1000
Any update on expected delivery if purchased through an OB

I keep reading about early 21 for ADs but not seen updates regarding OBs

My OB said late October for first ones coming thru... with Omega deciding who gets first dibs

TokenMao · Oct 7, 2020

rafabond
I've been following this thread from the beginning, Omega will never resemble Rolex in terms of quick investment of its models. Omega will produce this Snoopy until sales drop and the AD or OB display cases are down. At first there will be a premium on the gray market, due to the novelty, but it will decrease until, in my opinion, this will be well below the MSRP price. Omega is very fond of money and will squeeze this Snoopy to the limit. I understand that many people are in a hurry to have it and afraid to stay if the clock, calm ... there will be for everyone and many more.

What are you basing your opinion off of though? There are people coming out on both extremes of the range of possibilities, either saying "demand is out the roof, supply is gonna be super low, this watch is going to be super hard to get and way above MSRP," or "Omega is going to flood the market and tank the value of this watch" (which it seems like is what you're saying). Both are pretty extreme outcomes and my question is what gives you confidence that it'll be something that extreme rather than something more reasonable in the middle?

Why would you think that Omega wants to flood the market with watches and have market value be 50% of MSRP? If anything, the fact that they're switching their big releases over to OB priority rather than AD priority over the past few years (e.g. I got the Spectre Seamaster LE pretty easily from an AD when it came out, vs. the NTTD seamaster my AD said they were basically in the dark to how many they'd be getting while I had two separate OBs reach out to me asking if I wanted one) points in the opposite direction, that they want more control over the pricing of their watches and want better value retention compared to MSRP. And perhaps the strongest evidence against your claim that Omega will push this well below the MSRP price, look at other limited production watches like Apollo 8, no time to die seamaster, ed white 321. If Omega was really about squeezing their watches to the limit in order to maximize near term revenue then wouldn't market values of those watches have dropped meaningfully below MSRP (which they haven't)?

Maybe I'm totally wrong on this but my guess is a lot of people making these extreme claims don't have a lot of experience with Omega and are just guessing based off of what they've heard secondhand. I think that looking at Omega's track record, the available info we do have, and combining that with a bit of logical reasoning and a healthy dose of caution (because what we don't know is much more than what we do know) is a better choice compared to making wild speculative guesses based off of very little.

midimanwatch · Oct 7, 2020

Nyrmala
But why the heck no one seems interested by the Lume on this watch.
The previous Snoopy was incredible in the dark. What about this one ?

I can assure that you that I am, and it is one of the things that I was disappointed about with this watch.

Why did they mess about with the LUME? 😡

Evitzee · Oct 7, 2020

rafabond
I've been following this thread from the beginning, Omega will never resemble Rolex in terms of quick investment of its models. Omega will produce this Snoopy until sales drop and the AD or OB display cases are down. At first there will be a premium on the gray market, due to the novelty, but it will decrease until, in my opinion, this will be well below the MSRP price. Omega is very fond of money and will squeeze this Snoopy to the limit. I understand that many people are in a hurry to have it and afraid to stay if the clock, calm ... there will be for everyone and many more.

"Swatch Group shareholders are very fond of money and will squeeze this Snoopy to the limit" FIFY

midimanwatch · Oct 7, 2020

Boony
My OB said late October for first ones coming thru... with Omega deciding who gets first dibs

Depends but it looks like they have been put back to later in the year of first part of 2021 for OBs.

OBs get first grabs and AD's may get them later.

Nothing is guaranteed either but OBs are in the best position.

Evitzee · Oct 7, 2020

M midimanwatch
I can assure that you that I am, and it is one of the things that I was disappointed about with this watch.

Why did they mess about with the LUME? 😡

Never can understand the fetish on lume, who are you all, a bunch of Thai kids stuck in a cave?

midimanwatch · Oct 7, 2020

bobby shankit
I couldn't care less as to what odd's it's with that you've been given from the ever so important Uk Flagstores, i'm not sure i like the tone of your reply almost suggesting i'm talking some load of crap like many others on here in 100 odd pages of conspiracy theories about who's going to get one and who won't as you want me to share a copy of my deposit receipt, maybe get one of your Uk Flagstores to check for you that i've paid 👍

The boutique in question is the Trafford Centre Manchester of which i've purchased regularly from them over the last 5 years and not just watches, i've read all the other experts opinions on here too about OB's getting them first and how many they'll get and top of the list will get theirs first but i couldn't give a wild one, i'v paid my deposit to an OB so as in your own words "OB's lists will be getting first priority on orders in the UK." 😝

Seems to be a lot of uptight people on here ready to jump on anyone who says they've ordered one, paid a deposit etc, does it really fυcking matter 🤨 it's only a watch and certainly not the most important thing or purchase i'll be making but maybe it is for them, such a friendly place at times this forum 👎

I'm sorry if you feel offended but if paid my deposit and remainder in full I would more than happily post a copy of my redacted (NO PERSONAL DETAILS INCLUDED) receipt on here just to prove all the doubters and conspiracy theorists wrong.

It would be useful to stop and help to stop all of the BS and silly arguments that are going on here 😀

midimanwatch · Oct 7, 2020

Nyrmala
I quote :

"Also important to add, Super-LumiNova is used on the hands and hour markers. No glow-in-the-dark Snoopy this time. Also the ceramic bezel has not been treated with lume."

Huge let down if you ask me

I know.

That would have been the icing on the cake for me.

My DSOM has full lume everywhere.

Martin_J_N · Oct 7, 2020

I'm going to see my OB tomorrow, at that point I am going to pay my deposit for the watch, 10%, the watch is scheduled to be delivered to them in 2021, this is fine as I am moving house so not having to pay for the watch in full immediately is a big bonus.

The store manager has been told how many he is getting, but he is not telling anyone how many as yet. Once they have finished contacting people who 'expressed an interest' and got the deposits from those who still want the watch, then a decision will be made on whether you get a watch from the first batch or a later batch.

Which batch will I be in? I have no idea, a Speedy and a Railmaster bought from them in the last 15 months may help, it may not.

Martin_J_N · Oct 7, 2020

savio.79
The glowing Snoopy Rocket will be available only for customers who can prove having a luminous wrist, since the caseback can't absorb the sunlight :-D

I live not that far from a nuclear power station, will that help the rocket glow?

rominvicta · Oct 7, 2020

Evitzee
"Swatch Group shareholders are very fond of money and will squeeze this Snoopy to the limit" FIFY

Precisely and let us bear in mind as of lately these shareholders were not able to get it done with almost no other watches.

Martin_J_N · Oct 7, 2020

Evitzee
Never can understand the fetish on lume, who are you all, a bunch of Thai kids stuck in a cave?

I agree, what is going on with all these comments about lume? I was on the Rolex forum earlier and there is a thread there about lume and why it fades, and why watches don't glow all night.

FFS who sits up all night in the dark looking at a watch dial and its lume?

And on a Speedy, it's not exactly a dive watch is it?

hb8745 · Oct 7, 2020

Evitzee
"Swatch Group shareholders are very fond of money and will squeeze this Snoopy to the limit" FIFY

Whoever this is quoted from has no idea what they're talking about.

The Hayek family reach owned ~40% out last time I checked, and I would bet they are more concerned with preserving the long-term brand and family legacy. They are wealthy enough where they could give two shts abou short term stock px.

So with the family in control of the shares and with deep board representation, please tell me which SH groups are going to "squeeze this Snoopy to the limit." Shareholders don't get involved with decisions like that. You wouldn't even get a phone call returned if you owned < 5%, much less provide input onto how many units of snoopy to produce.

hb8745 · Oct 7, 2020

Martin_J_N
I agree, what is going on with all these comments about lume? I was on the Rolex forum earlier and there is a thread there about lume and why it fades, and why watches don't glow all night.

FFS who sits up all night in the dark looking at a watch dial and its lume?

And on a Speedy, it's not exactly a dive watch is it?

Jesus christ how are some of you commenting here so obtuse.

"I can't understand why someone would think this"
"I can't fathom why someone would think that"

Discussion turns to deposits - great here's my time to complain about people who are talking about deposits, and how we're not talking about the watch.

Discussion turns to the watch (lume) - great here's my time to complain about other people not liking the watch (lume).

I guess the message is, only post what you love about the watch. I know i'm new to these forums, but some of you are really starting to come across as hardcore fanboys.

platogsd · Oct 7, 2020

M midimanwatch
I'm sorry if you feel offended but if paid my deposit and remainder in full I would more than happily post a copy of my redacted (NO PERSONAL DETAILS INCLUDED) receipt on here just to prove all the doubters and conspiracy theorists wrong.

It would be useful to stop and help to stop all of the BS and silly arguments that are going on here 😀

I'm so lost and confused! Why is everyone fighting? I haven't read the full thread as it has blown up a bit, but I don't really understand why anyone should share a receipt online to strangers? Let's all cheers and be excited for what is to come! ::rimshot::

😀😎

LeonDeBayonne · Oct 7, 2020

Good. Now that the Snoopy is released, what comes next? ST3?

Evitzee · Oct 7, 2020

P platogsd
I'm so lost and confused! Why is everyone fighting? I haven't read the full thread as it has blown up a bit, but I don't really understand why anyone should share a receipt online to strangers? Let's all cheers and be excited for what is to come! 😀😎

What's to come is endless whining and complaining because their Snoopy hasn't arrived yet: so and so got theirs and I didn't get mine even though I paid in full and he didn't, etc, etc, etc.