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  1. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Nov 16, 2022

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    In many threads there have been debates about redials, and often a thing that is brought up is the presence of a notch somewhere on the dial, and it is often seen as a sure sign of a redial. While it certainly can be a something that happens during a redial (used to orient the dial properly during printing), I have seen plenty of dials fresh from the factory with these notches in them.

    Since I have two such watches in my shop right now, I thought it would be a good time to share these with you - the first is a Jenny Caribbean watch I'm servicing, and you can see the notch at 3 o'clock here:

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    This is the first service this watch is getting according to the owner, so although it's possible this is a redial, it is highly unlikely.

    Often the term "factory fresh" dial is used when asking if one has ever been seen. It just so happens that I ordered a brand new dial for a Sinn U1, which arrived last week. This dial has never been in a watch, so it is even more unlikely that a dial coming from Sinn, through their distributor, would be a redial:

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    Now not all dials I order from brands have notches, but I've seen enough of them to be pretty sure that dials do certainly come from the factory this way.

    When talking about vintage watches, I think the absence of a notch likely tells you more than the presence of one does.

    Cheers, Al
     
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  2. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Nov 16, 2022

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    Once it’s said on the internet….it’s true mentality…
     
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  3. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Nov 16, 2022

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    Yet another notch in Al's belt...

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  4. mac_omega Nov 16, 2022

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    On Omega watches its more often to find these notches at 12 o´clock as I have observed multiple times. Though when a dial has 2 notches (one at 3 and one at 12) you can be pretty sure its a re-dial...
     
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  5. DaveK Yoda of Yodelers Nov 17, 2022

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    This is a top notch thread
     
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  6. sheepdoll Nov 17, 2022

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    Anything you tell me three times is true.
     
  7. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Nov 17, 2022

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    Don't forget that notches are not only used for printing. Often necessary for Lume shapes placement/replacement on dials. Original and repainted. Like in your Carribbean .
     
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  8. Dash1 Nov 17, 2022

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    Beunos notches.

    Some original Omega dials definitely have notches.
     
  9. janice&fred Nov 17, 2022

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    Let's take this down a notch.
     
  10. p4ul “WATERRROOP” to 50m Nov 17, 2022

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    Natch.
     
  11. watchlovr Nov 17, 2022

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    Damn. I sold a lovely jumbo because I thought it was a redial, because it had a notch at 12.
     
  12. Matty01 Port Adelaide's No.1 Fan Nov 18, 2022

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    This is making me hungry, I’m redlialling my local Mexican for some noches