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Normally, I'm impressed when I open a Tissot.....
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Pastorbottle
·If the correct type of plastics for the job at hand are used in conjunction with good design and quality manufacturing practices there is no reason why they shouldn’t be suitable for a lot of tasks……… the problem is when they’re used,is for the sole purpose of doing it on the cheap, then the design, manufacturing practices and the careful selection of the type of materials used go out the window!
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ErichPryde
·Outside of a scientific conversation in which we define molecule classes, how valuable is this distinction between plastic and polymer? Sucrose is a polymer formed by dehydration synthesis of two monomers; polymers aren't inherently stronger than plastics. The term "plastic" has been used casually to refer to glocks since they came around, I've heard "plastic polymer" used as well casually. I guess because the term "plastic" has an inherently weaker connotation to some? Anyway the important part chemically (if I understand this properly) is that it is a nylon-based polymer, not that it's just a polymer.
Going back to my first sentence, I guess I'm curious how many people think of nylon fiber as "really strong plastics." Not sure I've ever paid attention to how the term "nylon" is viewed.
Going back to my first sentence, I guess I'm curious how many people think of nylon fiber as "really strong plastics." Not sure I've ever paid attention to how the term "nylon" is viewed.
Glock is a nylon-based proprietary polymer. All plastics are polymers but not all polymers are plastic. Not the same. 👍
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Aroxx
·But what is the terminal velocity of a polymer pistol? 
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Archer
··Omega Qualified Watchmakerhow valuable is this distinction between plastic and polymer?
Very! Every time someone mentions the Speedmaster's plastic brake (blocking lever), inevitably someone says "it's not plastic, it's polymer!" 😉
What does Omega call it?
72208601726V2 | PLASTIC BLOCKING LEVER
Next someone will say "But it's Delrin!" like it's some magical material.
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ErichPryde
·Very! Every time someone mentions the Speedmaster's plastic brake (blocking lever), inevitably someone says "it's not plastic, it's polymer!" 😉
What does Omega call it?
72208601726V2 | PLASTIC BLOCKING LEVER
Next someone will say "But it's Delrin!" like it's some magical material.
Isn't delrin a thermoplastic? 😵💫
Just confounding how important the "layperson" distinction even is: it seems that "polymer" and "modern plastic" is somewhat interchangeable in casual language with some sort of meaning: "polymers are better than plastic (even if they are technically plastic)." When "plastic" is specifically used, we think of something "lower quality."
Weird as far as I'm concerned- but when I see the word plastic I immediately know it's a man-made polymer of some sort and want to know what kind.
Perhaps I'm the screwy one. 😕
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Walrus
·This discussion with tissot and plastic was mentioned a while back. I went down the rabbit hole and thought my Rado captain cook had some plastic. Apparently they are using it (I know they aren’t in house movements but often claim to be modified in some way) Anyway apparently this one doesn’t. I read up on the movement as I was buying it from a friend. Had I confirmed it had plastic I’m not sure how I would have felt. It runs fine keeps excellent time nice power reserve. For some reason it has become one of my favorite watches. Low key but nice. Limited edition which really isn’t that big of deal since they release similar ones every year. I do think companies should inform the consumer so we can make an informed decision but I don’t know the full impact other than metal sounds better. Sorry kinda rambling in my head. Looks great on its leather strap I’ll be putting it back on soon perhaps.
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tritto
·The thing with the Tissot Astrolon is not just that the parts are plastic it's that the movement is sealed inside a plastic case, which makes it unserviceable. A precursor to the Sistem51 40 years ahead of its time.
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sheepdoll
·I was going to click, like on this thread, but found I did a year ago.
Wait long enought and one can often find almost anything ...
Wait long enought and one can often find almost anything ...
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TIMElyBehaviour
·I don’t have a pic of it but seen one in person, the tissot navigator worldtime from the 1990’s (a heritage re-release) has a movement inside that looks like it was finished by a baboon with a chisel. Glad it has a closed caseback. It is the perfect blend of the 1950’s and modern 160th edition dinner plate. It’s 36mm with the crown 1st position activating the world time disc. But that movement is just ……….
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ErichKeane
·The quartz crisis/the 90s did some awful things to many manufacturers unfortunately. Omega lowered quality of the movements of course, but they stayed pretty decent. Some manufacturers went completely out of business, many reduced their movement quality a bunch, and some, basically all the way. Tissot basically became a knock-off-timex-quality for a while.
My fairly recent example: Longines. They are typically my favorite watches to work on, some have been by far the highest quality feeling movements/prettiest movements I've worked on, even more than Omega and Rolex. However, I dug into a 90s Longines not long ago, and while it is better than the Tissot in OP, I was shocked with how cheaply made/awful it was (the 890.1 movement IIRC?).
My fairly recent example: Longines. They are typically my favorite watches to work on, some have been by far the highest quality feeling movements/prettiest movements I've worked on, even more than Omega and Rolex. However, I dug into a 90s Longines not long ago, and while it is better than the Tissot in OP, I was shocked with how cheaply made/awful it was (the 890.1 movement IIRC?).
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TIMElyBehaviour
·The quartz crisis/the 90s did some awful things to many manufacturers unfortunately. Omega lowered quality of the movements of course, but they stayed pretty decent. Some manufacturers went completely out of business, many reduced their movement quality a bunch, and some, basically all the way. Tissot basically became a knock-off-timex-quality for a while.
My fairly recent example: Longines. They are typically my favorite watches to work on, some have been by far the highest quality feeling movements/prettiest movements I've worked on, even more than Omega and Rolex. However, I dug into a 90s Longines not long ago, and while it is better than the Tissot in OP, I was shocked with how cheaply made/awful it was (the 890.1 movement IIRC?).
I can understand that, it’s just damn… when you see it it’s horrific.
