No wonder credit card fraud is rampant.

gatorcpa · Nov 19, 2016

glownyc
😵‍💫 The police couldn't be sure the person was the thief because he might have had his ID stolen as well so the "right" thing was for them to ignore a crime and another potential crime?!?

Perhaps you would like to start a fund so the police can do what you would like them to do.

Me, I'd rather they use that manpower against violent crime. I realize that budgets are limited. There are too many senseless deaths in my city already.

I say this as a one-time victim of ID theft. Once I showed the credit card company that the charges weren't mine, they send me an affidavit and they ate the charges. BTW, I had the addresses of delivery for these stolen cellphones.

Let their insurance deal with it.
gatorcpa

glownyc · Nov 19, 2016

gatorcpa
Perhaps you would like to start a fund so the police can do what you would like them to do.

Me, I'd rather they use that manpower against violent crime. I realize that budgets are limited. There are too many senseless deaths in my city already.

I say this as a one-time victim of ID theft. Once I showed the credit card company that the charges weren't mine, they send me an affidavit and they ate the charges. BTW, I had the addresses of delivery for these stolen cellphones.

Let their insurance deal with it.
gatorcpa

🙄 That's quite a bit over dramatic.

fnfz4 · Nov 20, 2016

tell me about it

Mad Dog · Nov 20, 2016

gemini4
Perhaps you only think you were tasered and actually received Electro Shock Therapy? That would explain the memory loss regarding the, never happened, tasering.

I know I was definitely tasered...I remember it quite well...and I have witnesses (fellow rookie cops that were tasered that day)...AND I received the X26 TASER tie-tac...they (the Cincinnati Police Department) only issue the tie-tac if you 'rode the lightning'. 😁

ulackfocus · Nov 23, 2016

Just got an unauthorized charge AGAIN from Paypal on my debit card!!!! It originated in Poland, just like the last one from 2 months ago. WTF????? Somebody already got my new debit card number. This is f🤬king ludicrous!!!!! 😡 🫨

watchdaddy1 · Nov 23, 2016

Worst thing to be in life is a low down dirty thief. Police these days are lazy IMO.It would be so easy for the police to handle & apprehend this DIRTBAG. Inrenet crime & fraud is running rampant these days because they won't set up stings to catch them in the process, because we have to not step on the dirtbags liberties. What a joke....Welcome to the 2000's

Hey I gotta guy & that guy is ME.

mozartman · Nov 23, 2016

glownyc
🙄 That's quite a bit over dramatic.

Not really. Criminal justice is very expensive. Cyber theft is big, and cyber commerce is that much bigger. IMO, in the end it will take major, complex international agreements to deal with the hackers in Russia, China and Lord knows where else. Right now it's just a cost of doing business.

glownyc · Nov 23, 2016

mozartman
Not really. Criminal justice is very expensive. Cyber theft is big, and cyber commerce is that much bigger. IMO, in the end it will take major, complex international agreements to deal with the hackers in Russia, China and Lord knows where else. Right now it's just a cost of doing business.

I don't think it's an all or nothing situation. In the case I mentioned the police had the name and address of where the order shipped. My friend was able to verify that a person with that name lived at that address. He could have been the crook or a victim who also had his identity stolen. I don't think it would be that great of a financial burden to have the officers who patrol the area to knock on the door and talk to the person. Not some complicated sting, just a knock on the door. If he was victim he would be informed and could stop further damage. If he was the crook he might a best confess at worst think twice about doing it again since he knows he's on the radar.

glownyc · Nov 23, 2016

watchdaddy1
Worst thing to be in life is a low down dirty thief. Police these days are lazy IMO.It would be so easy for the police to handle & apprehend this DIRTBAG. Inrenet crime & fraud is running rampant these days because they won't set up stings to catch them in the process, because we have to not step on the dirtbags liberties. What a joke....Welcome to the 2000's

Hey I gotta guy & that guy is ME.

I don't think it has to do with the crooks liberties. I think it has more to do with police departments expected to show a constant decrease in crime. They therefor will try not take reports or do anything that will affect the stats.

glownyc · Nov 23, 2016

U ulackfocus
Just got an unauthorized charge AGAIN from Paypal on my debit card!!!! It originated in Poland, just like the last one from 2 months ago. WTF????? Somebody already got my new debit card number. This is f🤬king ludicrous!!!!! 😡 🫨

That sucks! Maybe time to do a security check and change your passwords, scan you computers?

mozartman · Nov 23, 2016

glownyc
I don't think it has to do with the crooks liberties. I think it has more to do with police departments expected to show a constant decrease in crime. They therefor will try not take reports or do anything that will affect the stats.

This discussion doesn't have much to do about watches, Omega or otherwise, so I don't see much point in responding to these comments. It does sadden me that Americans can complain about their criminal justice system not doing enough about internet fraudsters stealing cell phones and laptops when there are so many other kinds of crime that should have much higher priority -- domestic violence, for example. The police must do the job they are assigned, and the ones I've worked with have all been highly professional. But resources are limited. The good news is, many US jurisdictions are retreating from the disastrously expensive and unproductive "war against drugs" that began in the 1970s. So resources can be better used.
As I noted above, cyber crime is a major international problem. The serious hackers are stealing American Express' or Walmart's credit card information, not just a laptop here or there.

cicindela · Nov 23, 2016

mozartman
This discussion doesn't have much to do about watches, Omega or otherwise, so I don't see much point in responding to these comments. It does sadden me that Americans can complain about their criminal justice system not doing enough about internet fraudsters stealing cell phones and laptops when there are so many other kinds of crime that should have much higher priority -- domestic violence, for example. The police must do the job they are assigned, and the ones I've worked with have all been highly professional. But resources are limited. The good news is, many US jurisdictions are retreating from the disastrously expensive and unproductive "war against drugs" that began in the 1970s. So resources can be better used.
As I noted above, cyber crime is a major international problem. The serious hackers are stealing American Express' or Walmart's credit card information, not just a laptop here or there.

This is an "Open Discussion" sub forum. Members are free to discuss whatever topic they wish. As you stated, you are free to not respond or ignore the thread if you wish.

BlackTalon · Nov 23, 2016

the police in my area have plenty of time to set up speed traps on local roads where excessive speed is not much of an issue, but when I suffered identity theft a few years back they took a report but offered zero help. My wife pieced together mailbox addresses, post office locations where certified checks were obtained, etc., but they did not pursue a single thing or agree to talk to any police officers from a couple different jurisdictions around the east coast where a fraudulent ATM card was used. They had to have been caught on multiple cameras accessing ATMs and going into different post offices. Same cops are out hiding in the bushes down the street a few days later trying to catch speeders. Violent crime? Not really much around here, so that is not where their attention is centered.

mozartman · Nov 23, 2016

cicindela
This is an "Open Discussion" sub forum. Members are free to discuss whatever topic they wish. As you stated, you are free to not respond or ignore the thread if you wish.

Yes, and I should have added your site does a great service to collectors, including with threads like this one about internet fraud. Before coming here, I'd never have bought a vintage watch or any other significant collectible online. Now, though I still much prefer face-to-face transactions, I know better how to take precautions. The info here on shipping and insurance alone is pure gold. So, thanks.

glownyc · Nov 24, 2016

mozartman
This discussion doesn't have much to do about watches, Omega or otherwise, so I don't see much point in responding to these comments. It does sadden me that Americans can complain about their criminal justice system not doing enough about internet fraudsters stealing cell phones and laptops when there are so many other kinds of crime that should have much higher priority -- domestic violence, for example. The police must do the job they are assigned, and the ones I've worked with have all been highly professional. But resources are limited. The good news is, many US jurisdictions are retreating from the disastrously expensive and unproductive "war against drugs" that began in the 1970s. So resources can be better used.
As I noted above, cyber crime is a major international problem. The serious hackers are stealing American Express' or Walmart's credit card information, not just a laptop here or there.

One of my good friends from school works as a social worker. Unfortunately from what she tells me the police here seem to have the same attitude towards things like domestic violence as they did towards my friends issue.

RegF · Nov 24, 2016

Mad Dog
Do you want to see me get the taser?

I have video of it around here somewhere...I was tasered during training when I was with the Cincinnati Police.

Wow! I never would have thought that you were one of "those" cops that other cops feel they have to taser.

Whaddya do? Or are the records sealed or something similar?

And now they let you fly airplanes?

that Tony Soprano has way more influence that you get the sense of in the documentary. 😗

RegF · Nov 25, 2016

I was listening to a criminal psychologist get interviewed on the radio a few days ag.

remember that old definition of insanity and or stupidity is doing the same thing over & over but expecting a different result.

So this guys research had looked at our ( Australian) criminal justice system and the criminals incarcerated in to across a spectrum of crimes

Turns out the vast majority in gaol were repeat offenders - like 30-50 times

So what we are doing is a deterrent-based system

"if you do this bad thing, then we'll lock, you up, fine you, taser you" pick one of these

So our criminal goes an does it, actually gets caught, thrown in gaol, does his time and is released.

Oh my, look, he does it again, so we thrown his ass in gaol and then he does his time and gets released and guess what happens

See above for the aforementioned definition. A friend of mine who used to be in our public defenders office confirmed this is endemic.

His research showed that the vast majority of crime was about impulse control.

If the opportunity presents itself, then the crime will happen, because the consequences are not in the picture in terms of weighing up whether to do the deed or not.

His study showed that children grow through this phase and then grow out of it, and it seems that a lot of criminal types don't

He'd done some studies that showed when the opportunity to be impulsive bad was removed the crime stopped

Now all we need to do is figure out how to apply this to cyber crime

rbird7282 · Nov 25, 2016

U ulackfocus
Youze guyz are no fun. 🙁

I wanted to see the dude get the taser. 😁

"Don't tase me bro"

No wonder credit card fraud is rampant.

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