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New to this - my search for a dog leg connie

norb1967
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I wouldn’t buy a thing from fine watch club.
I think their prices are quite high
 
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johnireland johnireland
Here are some nice ones....even if they are gold. But check out what else they are offering.

Vintage Omega Constellation Chronometer 18k Yellow Gold De Luxe Pie Pan | eBay

VINTAGE Ω OMEGA CONSTELLATION PIE PAN 18K ROSE SOLID GOLD STUNNING | eBay

And here is a good store in the UK

fine-watch-club on eBay


The OP is looking for a dogleg, both of these are the later lyre-lug references and whilst already quite expensive would be prohibitively expensive if you add import taxes.

I also second @Davidt ’s comment about a fine watch club in Norwich.
There are several threads on the experiences of members with this seller.
Average watches, high prices and a boorish seller.
To repeat your own recent sage advice, buy the seller.
 
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johnireland
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Well to each his own. I had a very nice experience with First Watch Club and I don't find the prices too high. They're not cheap but I find them in line with most dealers on both sides of the Atlantic. Of course they have costs that two hobbyists meeting over a beer don't have. They have rent and taxes and insurance and employee salaries and benefits and the cost of money on the watches that might be sitting in the case for months before they sell and the price of warrantying their merchandise and the overhead on the brick and motor and, of course, the owner's own cost of living plus maybe even putting a little money into a savings account for his old age. That can easily double the price of a watch. Plus the cost of buying inventory has also gone through the roof. So I don't begrudge any merchant his price. I usually will offer less, but not so much that he won't still make a profit. If we come to a meeting of minds, great. And if not, well that is the way life goes.
 
Davidt
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It’s not his prices but the quality of his stock and attitude.
Several times I and others have pointed out issues with their stock such as redials that weren’t disclosed and were basically told to get lost. The watches were subsequently sold to customers, probably unaware of the issues.
 
johnireland
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As I said, I bought once from them and the experience was fine. And that is also true with other dealers who I've bought and sold from in the US.
 
Dan S
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Note to newbies to the forum. Just because someone gives advice doesn't mean they are credible. It takes some time to learn whose opinions you can trust.
 
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Dan S Dan S
Note to newbies to the forum. Just because someone gives advice doesn't mean they are credible. It takes some time to learn whose opinions you can trust.

Newbies love giving advice, too.
 
norb1967
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Ultimately, advice is what you make of it. The advantage of any forum is the ability for others to weigh in and say what they think.
 
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johnireland johnireland
Here are some nice ones....even if they are gold. But check out what else they are offering.

Vintage Omega Constellation Chronometer 18k Yellow Gold De Luxe Pie Pan | eBay

VINTAGE Ω OMEGA CONSTELLATION PIE PAN 18K ROSE SOLID GOLD STUNNING | eBay

And here is a good store in the UK

fine-watch-club on eBay
That’s a pretty terrible dealer even by UK bricks and mortar standards, there are Omegas there that are complete junk and worth 300 quid tops that he’s selling for nearly 2000. Its not 50% markup, its 4-8 times markup on many of these pieces. And they’re crap.
 
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Agreed as to Fine Watch Club. If you prefer to acquire a watch through a dealer, work with one you can trust and that charges a reasonable markup. I would recommend James Kibble at Kibble Watches in London. You’ll always pay more for a given watch acquired through a dealer, but James is honest, his listings are accurate, he allows returns, and his markup isn’t crazy. Good guy to do business with and he knows his subject.
 
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norb1967 norb1967
Ultimately, advice is what you make of it. The advantage of any forum is the ability for others to weigh in and say what they think.

I agree that open fora are a great place for discussion and debate and anyone should and can voice their opinions without ‘fear or favour’ as they say.

However, everyone (both old and new) should be circumspect about offering advice when they are unsure of the advice given, as misleading or contrarian missives can be taken as gospel by the uninitiated.

Thankfully, this forum has huge breadth and depth amongst the experience of its members and tends to, politely but firmly, correct any misleading ( or just plain wrong) information - and that is why it is counted by many as the best watch forum out there.
 
norb1967
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A fellow member has contacted me with this piece that’s potentially available (and has given me permission to discuss it here). These aren’t his pics, but from a local collector he might buy it off.

Looks like a nice watch, although the markers look like the ought to have lume in them but I can’t see it - were there some watches with black hand markers but no onyx or paint in the markers?

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norb1967 norb1967
Looks like a nice watch, although the markers look like the ought to have lume in them but I can’t see it - were there some watches with black hand markers but no onyx or paint in the markers?
Yes, there were some made with neither radium nor onyx. However, the markers on these would not have grooves for the onyx. Here is an example without onyx.

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The tops of the markers on the one above are flat and polished, so that at some angles, it looks like onyx is there when it is not. From same listing.

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Note the 12, 1 and 2 markers.

I would be very wary of the watch you posted. Do some more research.
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gatorcpa gatorcpa
Yes, there were some made with neither radium nor onyx. However, the markers on these would not have grooves for the onyx. Here is an example without onyx.

upload_2022-7-9_17-48-33.png


The tops of the markers on the one above are flat and polished, so that at some angles, it looks like onyx is there when it is not. From same listing.

upload_2022-7-9_17-51-13.png


Note the 12, 1 and 2 markers.

I would be very wary of the watch you posted. Do some more research.
gatorcpa
Thanks for this info. It is interesting. I’ll do a bit more research, as there were so many dial variations, and also await the potential seller’s own thoughts when he views the watch in person next week.
 
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I trust the Connie isn’t being offered by the Irish guy who likes to sell on watches he doesn’t yet own for a profit. If it is, take care!
 
norb1967
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padders padders
I trust the Connie isn’t being offered by the Irish guy who likes to sell on watches he doesn’t yet own for a profit. If it is, take care!
Ha; I don’t know who this is, and the seller assures me he is not this guy haha!
 
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The double hallmark is interesting

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two hallmarks on a Swiss gold case is the norm.
 
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