New speedmaster pro

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towboat

·Mar 11, 2023

I just ordered a new speedy master. Being as I have had only automatic chronograph watches I am unsure of how much to wind it starting off,or how often and how many times after whether daily every few etc... Also I've heard there is a trick to hacking the second hand not sure I would feel comfortable doing that any advice appreciated.

 

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Evitzee

·Mar 11, 2023

Wind it fully, until the crown can't be turned anymore, i.e., a hard stop. Wind it everyday at about the same time. The new 3861 movement in the current Speeedmaster hacks, so when you pull the crown out it will stop, making setting to exact second easy.

 

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JwRosenthal

·Mar 11, 2023

Welcome to manual winders! ^ what he said. No need to overthink it- it should wind pretty effortlessly and as the spring builds tension you will feel slightly more resistance. Once you feel it getting stiff you can stop or wait until you hit the hard stop. Unless you are Conan the Barbarian, it’s unlikely you will over-wind it or break the spring.
My 50 year old Speedy goes 48hrs on a full wind (almost to the minute). It won’t lose time as it winds down (I don’t hack nor care if I am that close so I never noticed it), it will just stop- so if you skip a day it’s not an issue.

 

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Evitzee

·Mar 11, 2023

The 3861 has a real life run time of about 62 hours so you could go two days between winds but I find doing that makes it easier to forget a day and you'll end up with a stopped watch. Just wind it everyday, make it a part of your routine.

 

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towboat

·Mar 11, 2023

I appreciate the comments I was debating between the one I ordered and a reduced but I decided on the professional with sapphire

 

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JwRosenthal

·Mar 11, 2023

You got a nice watch. Remember these are meant to be worn and the first scratch always hurts the most. Eventually you will be rock scrambling while wearing it.

 

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towboat

·Mar 11, 2023

This one at least still has the all steel caseback

 

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YY77

·Mar 12, 2023

towboat

I decided on the professional with sapphire

towboat

This one at least still has the all steel caseback

So it isn't the new Speedmaster 3861, then has a non hacking movement in it.

Here's a vid from our resident watchmaker how to hack:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/hacking-non-hacking-movements.148777/#post-2028325

 

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Watch my Whisky

·Mar 12, 2023

Congratulations on the watch, and yes, it is important to time your watch to the second.

 

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towboat

·Mar 12, 2023

I should have clarified it is an unworn speedmaster. Never been used.

 

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Scarecrow Boat

·Mar 12, 2023

Post a picture or two when it arrives 👍

 

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towboat

·Mar 13, 2023

I will

 

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towboat

·Mar 13, 2023

I could have gotten one with the hesalite crystal but I figured the sapphire is more durable and less maintenance. The watch has never been sold so I'm the first owner, I honestly prefer the non display caseback.

 

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Evitzee

·Mar 13, 2023

I'm confused, your new watch has a sapphire crystal but a solid back, which model is this? How old is it?

 

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towboat

·Mar 13, 2023

It has the 1861 movement it has never been worn so I consider it new to me

 

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towboat

·Mar 24, 2023

Well finally received my speedy the seller sent an 1861 solid back and hesalite crystal instead of sapphire. I n the grand scheme it could have been worse

 

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Scarecrow Boat

·Mar 24, 2023

towboat

Well finally received my speedy the seller sent an 1861 solid back and hesalite crystal instead of sapphire. I n the grand scheme it could have been worse

This is, unfortunately, a fake watch. I’d return that immediately.

 

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fiberguy

·Mar 24, 2023

Scarecrow Boat

This is, unfortunately, a fake watch. I’d return that immediately.

As part of my learning process... would you mind sharing the signs of it being a fake

 

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Scarecrow Boat

·Mar 24, 2023

fiberguy

As part of my learning process... would you mind sharing the signs of it being a fake

Well, everything about the watch is wrong. The case- it has the wrong shape and is also too tall because it has the wrong movement in it. The pushers and crown aren't on the same plane/in line with each other, because of the movement. The pusher/crown orientation is like that of a Speedy Reduced. The case back- has the wrong font, spacing, engraving, and the hippocampus (along with being incorrect) is huge. The dial- font is wrong, the sub dial spacing is wrong, and all of the hands are incorrect. I'm sure there would be other tells but the suspiciously tight cropped dial photo hides them.

Edited for better readability.

Edited: Mar 24, 2023

 

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Aroxx

·Mar 24, 2023

fiberguy

As part of my learning process... would you mind sharing the signs of it being a fake

I need to work on my eye because the red flags didn't jump out at me. I had to look at some side-by-sides and the differences became clear. As mentioned, the spacing of the sub-registers and the sub-register hands are very different. On the back, the hippocampus is way off and the grooves for opening the case are much different.

@towboat Where did you buy it?