New Omega Speedmaster Release?!

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Well if we're here posting Buzz videos we can't forget this gem...


Never miss an opportunity to watch this lol
The goods deliver 0:45 in.
 
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Waitlists can be permanently maintained if the manufacturer has the proper product and manages it properly. The Hermes Birken bag has been in production for years yet a woman can't just walk into a Hermes boutique and buy one. There is a perpetual wait list. Omega could do the same with the 321 for years to come. Create a halo product and manage its availability to the public. For now that is what Omega is doing.

We will see. The Birkin has literally decades of demand behind it, while the 321 Speedmaster (and why it's important) is new and mostly unknown outside of watch-enthusiast circles. To us on an Omega forum, of course we know well what it is, but your uncle from the middle of the country still only knows Rolex.
 
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We will see. The Birkin has literally decades of demand behind it, while the 321 Speedmaster (and why it's important) is new and mostly unknown outside of watch-enthusiast circles. To us on an Omega forum, of course we know well what it is, but your uncle from the middle of the country still only knows Rolex.

I feel my uncle from the middle of the country wouldn't know a Birkin bag either. In fact, he would be more likely to know an Omega Speedmaster than Birkin bag
Hell I didnt really know what a Birkin bag was until recently.
The truth is, the 321 has a lot of demand behind it, and likely will for the foreseeable future. Whether it is ever in cases and able to buy on the spot, that remains to be seen, but I doubt the manufacturing is being held back to create artificial scarcity.
Its much more likely that a watch announced at the beginning of the pandemic, with a large demand and difficult to produce movement has just been slow to make. Between issues in manufacturing due to shutdowns, and supply chain issues, its no wonder its a hard watch to get.

I look forward to getting mine, down the line.
 
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I doubt the manufacturing is being held back to create artificial scarcity

Much has already been discussed about the fact that Omega is having a single watchmaker produce every step of each 321 movement, and how it's essentially just a ploy to limit production and make the watch 'more special'. This results in an estimated annual production of 2000 movements or less (from a bit of Googling).

As for your uncle and the Birkins, well it'd be his wife who would be interested there. But even compared to the 321, the Birkin is hugely restricted. How many do Hermes make a year? Less than 100 would be my wild guess.
 
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Much has already been discussed about the fact that Omega is having a single watchmaker produce every step of each 321 movement, and how it's essentially just a ploy to limit production and make the watch 'more special'. This results in an estimated annual production of 2000 movements or less (from a bit of Googling).

As for your uncle and the Birkins, well it'd be his wife who would be interested there. But even compared to the 321, the Birkin is hugely restricted. How many do Hermes make a year? Less than 100 would be my wild guess.
Hermes makes a crap load of Birkins. It's estimated that Hermes makes over 50k Birkins a year.
 
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Well if we're here posting Buzz videos we can't forget this gem...


Never miss an opportunity to watch this lol
The goods deliver 0:45 in.
Lol the guy had it coming, you don’t walk up to someone’s face and call them a fraud and coward without being ready for it to get physical. Nice punch
 
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But conclusion is ‘no new release’? Already some time ago we had a Speedy SE. I still hope they do something with the 65th Anniversary.
 
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I doubt that's is it. There may be nothing at all, just some hype for the moon landing and the moonwatch, but it can't be about an auction 🤔

The Sotheby's catalogue "Buzz Aldrin: American Icon" was released online at 12 noon. May have no connection/co-ordination to the print advertisement published by Omega today - anyhow I am off to watch 'Capricorn One'.....😉
 
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Some interesting, and some very quirky, stuff in the auction, estimated prices are well below what the final prices will be. Don't think there is any connection between the Omega ad and the Sotheby's auction other than the date. I'm surprised none of this three kids wanted some of this stuff, but maybe they figured dad should sell what he wanted. Maybe the 'good' stuff was already handed to the kids.
 
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Some interesting, and some very quirky, stuff in the auction, estimated prices are well below what the final prices will be. Don't think there is any connection between the Omega ad and the Sotheby's auction other than the date. I'm surprised none of this three kids wanted some of this stuff, but maybe they figured dad should sell what he wanted. Maybe the 'good' stuff was already handed to the kids.


No disrespect to Buzz Aldrin, as he is justly entitled to auction his material. Having said that, NASA probably owes David Scott an apology for raking him over the coals for bringing along some flags and envelopes.
 
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I'm surprised none of this three kids wanted some of this stuff, but maybe they figured dad should sell what he wanted. Maybe the 'good' stuff was already handed to the kids.

Use the Google machine and search Aldrin sues adult children and the results will give you a pretty good idea why the kids might not be in on getting any of the good stuff.
 
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Hermes makes a crap load of Birkins. It's estimated that Hermes makes over 50k Birkins a year.

Wow, yeah I've looked it up now and it seems it's even more than that. Did not know that. Still though, like Rolex, they've built up decades of demand via clearly photographed celebrities carrying their bags. Meanwhile the images of the 105.003 on Ed White's cuff during the EVA aren't super clear - we know what it is but the average casually-interested consumer doesn't really.
 
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Just got an email regarding this; In the pic Buzz is wearing a 321 Ed White, link takes me to the 3861 Speedy.
Nothing to see here, I guess.
 
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Just got an email regarding this; In the pic Buzz is wearing a 321 Ed White, link takes me to the 3861 Speedy.
Nothing to see here, I guess.

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Much has already been discussed about the fact that Omega is having a single watchmaker produce every step of each 321 movement, and how it's essentially just a ploy to limit production and make the watch 'more special'. This results in an estimated annual production of 2000 movements or less (from a bit of Googling).

As for your uncle and the Birkins, well it'd be his wife who would be interested there. But even compared to the 321, the Birkin is hugely restricted. How many do Hermes make a year? Less than 100 would be my wild guess.
People come up with some wild ideas. Marketing is an advanced strategy. I’m willing to bet the ed white editions simply aren’t profitable. It’s known that the 321 was scrapped because it was more expensive and difficult to produce. There’s no intentional limitation on production. There’s just no reason to increase it. You maximize the items with high profit margins instead of affecting productions like a difficult to manufacture movement that take considerable amounts of time for a relatively tiny population
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People come up with some wild ideas. Marketing is an advanced strategy. I’m willing to bet the ed white editions simply aren’t profitable. It’s known that the 321 was scrapped because it was more expensive and difficult to produce. There’s no intentional limitation on production. There’s just no reason to increase it. You maximize the items with high profit margins instead of affecting productions like a difficult to manufacture movement that take considerable amounts of time for a relatively tiny population


Omega makes around 1000 321/yr, thats what im beeing told by the factory in may, thats the only caliber (plus the tourbillon) that are made by « true » watchmakers, the rest of the production is made by hand but its more an assembly of components

of course the 321 is more expensive to make but i have heard also that the 321 is their heritage/legacy/top of the line speedmaster.
They wont let a non existing client get one. Even more so now. The snoopy 3 is the right example too

a few watch made because special models are made by a few people at the factory.
 
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People come up with some wild ideas. Marketing is an advanced strategy. I’m willing to bet the ed white editions simply aren’t profitable. It’s known that the 321 was scrapped because it was more expensive and difficult to produce. There’s no intentional limitation on production. There’s just no reason to increase it. You maximize the items with high profit margins instead of affecting productions like a difficult to manufacture movement that take considerable amounts of time for a relatively tiny population

I’ll take that bet. They can sell a FOIS at £4k and make money, but they charge more like £12k for the 321 NEW 321 and it is a loss leader? I hardly think so. While the parts are not the same, there is nothing so extraordinary in the newer watch that suggests it is not profitable when priced at 3x that of the FOIS. A column wheel probably does cost pennies more to make than a cam system but plenty of cheap as chips movements have utilised them before. The marketing fluff is just to justify the price.

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I’ll take that bet. They can sell a FOIS at £4k and make money, but they charge more like £12k for the 321 NEW 321 and it is a loss leader? I hardly think so. While the parts are not the same, there is nothing so extraordinary in the newer watch that suggests it is not profitable when priced at 3x that of the FOIS. A column wheel probably does cost pennies more to make than a cam system but plenty of cheap as chips movements have utilised them before. The marketing fluff is just to justify the price.

I am selling some magic beans You may be interested in.


Lets say employees that make FOIS make 2000€/month
You need 50 of them to make 20000 watch/yr


On the other hand 50 people that make 321 make 3500€/month
They make 1000 321/yr

you will understand why the 321 cost more
 
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Lets say employees that make FOIS make 2000€/month
You need 50 of them to make 20000 watch/yr


On the other hand 50 people that make 321 make 3500€/month
They make 1000 321/yr

you will understand why the 321 cost more
Sure it costs more to make. Your maths is questionable though since there were only around 1500 FOIS made per year on average (16k watches sold over ~10 years) . Does the 321 cost ~10x more to make? Err probably not. Anyway, about these beans, you interested too?
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