New A386 Revival in blue - MANUFACTURE EDITION

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Are there any Zenith bracelets that fit this model?
The steel bracelet for the new chronomaster will fit, around 500 euro, this was posted on a local watchforum:

I'm told by Zenith (US service center) that the current ladder bracelet will fit, and have one on order. Lead time was months, so expecting it in December, and hope the fitment is good. But, leather is working for me anyway.

Zenith also told me that the solid link bracelet from the supposedly 1:1 cased A386 revival would fit - but it did NOT fit - endlinks would have required significant grinding/modification.
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Just joined the club ::psy::

I love that the dial matches the original A386 (apart from the sub-register colors of course), the "paddle" seconds hand, the classic screw-down caseback and of course the 400 movement. I'm not sure why they didn't go with the original 4-star crown but that's a minor gripe.

Having read this thread for the first time, I was a bit dismayed to find out that the prototype-dial may be a marketing stunt; that's quite the "white lie" and a bit risky when their CEO J.T. broadcasts the story in videos etc. 馃

But then again I didn't select this reference for the story, rather it was one of only two possible options for me (the other being the white-gold edition, which I can't afford, assuming I could even find one). In any event, I'll be doing a "pictorial" on this one soon enough 馃榿

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I'm told by Zenith (US service center) that the current ladder bracelet will fit, and have one on order. Lead time was months, so expecting it in December, and hope the fitment is good...
Please be sure to post once it's mounted - yours would be the very first "sighting" of a ME+Ladder combo... anywhere on the 'Net 馃槈
Please also be so kind to post a pic of the labels on the "packaging" - I know the base ref# is 27.02.A386.400 but I'd like to have the "P" number (for the A384 ladder, it's 27.02.A384.400 P032903033).

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Correction, yours will be the second sighting...
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c/o ZenithWatchForums FB-Group member S.C.
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c/o ZenithWatchForums FB-Group member S.C.

Zenith also told me that the solid link bracelet from the supposedly 1:1 cased A386 revival would fit - but it did NOT fit - endlinks would have required significant grinding/modification.
Here's a shot from a member of the ZenithWatchForums FB Group. His watchmaker did a good job if what you said is the case for all endlinks supplied with the solid-link bracelet. The endlinks do stick out past the lugs but it's really minimal and the endlink-to-case fit is better than my 1171/633 to SpeedyTuesday attempt 馃榿

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c/o ZenithWatchForums FB-Group member G.C.
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I'd have to agree with all that expected a T-dial - after all, 1967-1971 is already well into the Tritium era.
However the romantic in me wants to give Z茅nith's story a chance, as remote as it may be... .

Looking at Rolex - a popular reference, given that they changed their dials for each "event":
1963-1964 was a transitional period where some dials were already lumed with Tritium but still printed with the original "Swiss" text.
1964~1997 various references were rolled out with the new "T-Swiss-T" and/or "Swiss - T <25"
1998~2000 with the advent of Super-Luminova Rolex went back to "Swiss" text until roughly
2000~2001 when they switched to "Swiss Made".

As all of you know, Team Z茅nith-Martel began their Automatic-Chronograph project in 1960 with the intention of making it to market in time for Z茅nith's Centenary in 1965. The dial was certainly not the project's first priority but there is a (slight) chance that prototype dials were already being produced during the Tritium transition period... 馃

Regarding Z茅nith's pre-tritium era; I know literally nothing apart from seeing (images of) calibre-133 powered watches from the 50s with "Swiss Made" on the dial, as well as "Swiss" only (unlike Rolex).

So just like most of you, I would have expected to see a T-dial but the timeline could indeed justify a transitional prototype dial. If anyone can dispel this romantic notion of mine (due to the use of "modern" font / typeface vs. pre-60s etc.) well then by all means, I'm always ready to learn something new 馃憤

Yeah, T is missing on the dial..... i don't buy the story but i must admit the watch looks great !!! I have the feeling they relaized they made a mistake by making only 50 A386 re-issue. As they had a lot of demand, they made this one as they could not make the exact same dial
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That BS story though...
... Maybe I'm a little naive but I believe the origin story. I've never seen or read about any other El Primero prototype dials but I have to believe there should have been some. It doesn't seem so contrived that a prototype dial might not have the "T" in swiss made. Given that the T indication for tritium was a regulatory requirement, wouldn't it be an easy way to make sure the prototype dials didn't end up in a final product? It seems more contrived that Zenith would make this dial and some variations, faux-age them, and then make up this story...
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I saw that watch and could put it aside with mine last thursday.



I must say, the reedition is really well done.

To my taste, superluminova lacks the warm felling tritium provides but I heard that some cigarette smoke can easily fix that 馃槜
 
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... If anyone can dispel this romantic notion of mine (due to the use of "modern" font / typeface vs. pre-60s etc.)...
Thanks to Kov's most awesome MK I, I noted a distinct difference in the typeface of the original and the Revivals. Based on this, I now agree that the prototype-dial photos are made up. In other words, new dials doctored to look old.

Rather disappointing, tbh. 馃憥

Although there's a minute chance that there were actual prototype dials which were too damaged for the purpose of presenting them to the public, I've all but given up on the story. 馃槖

Typeface on this MK II/III - note the "feet" on most characters...
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"doctored" modern dials which use modern Revival (as well as "Chronomaster Original" fonts)
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Thanks to Kov's most awesome MK I, I noted a distinct difference in the typeface of the original and the Revivals. Based on this, I now agree that the prototype-dial photos are made up. In other words, new dials doctored to look old.

Rather disappointing, tbh. 馃憥

Although there's a minute chance that there were actual prototype dials which were too damaged for the purpose of presenting them to the public, I've all but given up on the story. 馃槖

Typeface on this MK II/III - note the "feet" on most characters...
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"doctored" modern dials which use modern Revival (as well as "Chronomaster Original" fonts)
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I don't know anything about the dials, but the font feet you are referring to is called Serif, and the text without feet is Sans Serif. (This is not a specific font, but rather a broad category of fonts).
 
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I ordered mine. I have to wait until the 3th of january, Zenith is in holiday for now. 2022 will start good.
I hesitated a long time between the Chronomaster Original and this Revival. The coming lack of avaibality on the website in 2022 + the cool packaging have ending of convincing me and pull the trigger.
From a design perspective, the lack of tachymeter scale and paddle second for the chronomaster is a no no after all.
This will be my first Zenith, I will post shots of the beauty when it will come home.
 
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2021 was a most awesome year for me 32.png -wise 32.png 32.png
The 321EW for my birthday 32.png & the A386ME for Xmas 32.png

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32.png 32.png All the best for 2022! 32.png 32.png

2021 was a most awesome year for me 32.png -wise 32.png 32.png
The 321EW for my birthday 32.png & the A386ME for Xmas 32.png

I hope 2021 was also good to you and here's to 2022! 32.png 32.png 32.png 32.png 32.png

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Awesome year for you ! 2 of the most desirable chrono watches on the actual market ! Enjoy the end of the year, I am waiting for my A386 next week or the week after
 
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What do your think about this new watch, Zenith has just revealed?


I love these watches. Don't see many around which is always nice!
 
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32.png 32.png All the best for 2022! 32.png 32.png

2021 was a most awesome year for me 32.png -wise 32.png 32.png
The 321EW for my birthday 32.png & the A386ME for Xmas 32.png

I hope 2021 was also good to you and here's to 2022! 32.png 32.png 32.png 32.png 32.png

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Congrats, these are both stunning! That EW though, absolutely gorgeous!!
 
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Awesome year for you ! 2 of the most desirable chrono watches on the actual market ! Enjoy the end of the year, I am waiting for my A386 next week or the week after
Congrats, these are both stunning! That EW though, absolutely gorgeous!!
Thx, gents! 馃憤

FWIW, this is my IG annual 2021 "grid" 馃槈
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Nice addition! 馃グ
It was designed "in house" by the local design / graphics team 馃憤
I assume it comes with all watches purchased directly from Le Locle 馃

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Nice addition! 馃グ
It was designed "in house" by the local design / graphics team 馃憤
I assume it comes with all watches purchased directly from Le Locle 馃

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This poster comes with Zenith online boutique purchases in the US as well. Pretty cool!
 
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I received mine last saturday !
Great watch i love it
First Zenith for me, It cant be better !

 
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I received mine last saturday ! Great watch i love it First Zenith for me, It cant be better !
Congrats!!! ::psy:: Looking good sir, wear it in the best of health 馃憤馃槈