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Any salesperson who treated the OP rudely is a fool. But that's the world we live in today. This was an opportunity to invest some time in a future customer, even if he was not intending to buy that day. And let's not act like the SA spending 10 quality minutes with the OP was going to keep them from making any sales that day--they simply aren't that busy.


And here's my 2220.80 on a Forstner bullet bracelet:

My AD guy treats me great, and I've never bought one from him, just used them to handle sending them for service. The Nashville OB was great too.
 
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Good news, I went to a new omega boutique that opened 5 months ago. Night and day experience. They had a CW21 watchmaker onsite that opened up the caseback and immediately confirmed it was an authentic piece. They were patient, let me try on the sedna gold moonwatch and a couple of grail watches. Highly recommend Baileys jewlery in central NC.
 
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Legit for that era. Laser engraving on back is as expected. None of the tells of the high end 2500 era fakes are there.

Yeah OB’s and esp AD’s generally know little about older pieces.

In general AD’s are utterly worthless unless you want to buy what they have in the glass case you’re standing in front of.
 
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I am no expert,
I wonder about the caseback and one end link.
Also the hands.
There are some good fakes out there.
Interest to hear what the experts have to say

I do not see what you see.
 
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I do not see what you see.
Probably ok, pics not clear, but there appears to be no 824 engraved on the link and the emblem looks shallow. Likely just the low res and angle.
 
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Probably ok, pics not clear, but there appears to be no 824 engraved on the link and the emblem looks shallow. Likely just the low res and angle.
It’s just low quality pictures. The 824 is present on the opposite end link.
 
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Good news, I went to a new omega boutique that opened 5 months ago. Night and day experience. They had a CW21 watchmaker onsite that opened up the caseback and immediately confirmed it was an authentic piece. They were patient, let me try on the sedna gold moonwatch and a couple of grail watches. Highly recommend Baileys jewlery in central NC.
That is great to hear. It's an awesome watch. Enjoy!
 
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I find these threads slightly strange.

Essentially people are saying “I want a genuine Omega but I dont have the experience to authenticate one myself.
Equally, I aren’t prepared to pay the premium it costs to buy a new one from a boutique or a used one from a reputable bricks and mortar store, so I’ll buy one from a lesser know seller than costs less, then take it one of the former establishments and ask them to authenticate it for free, so I get the best of both worlds”.

Then people wonder why sales staff who are on commission are slightly off with them.
 
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I find these threads slightly strange.

Essentially people are saying “I want a genuine Omega but I dont have the experience to authenticate one myself.
Equally, I aren’t prepared to pay the premium it costs to buy a new one from a boutique or a used one from a reputable bricks and mortar store, so I’ll buy one from a lesser know seller than costs less, then take it one of the former establishments and ask them to authenticate it for free, so I get the best of both worlds”.

Then people wonder why sales staff who are on commission are slightly off with them.
Unfortunately being in college I wish I could drop 6-10k on a new omega. I know once I graduate my career will easily let me afford a new omega. This was a graduation and birthday gift for me and I’m grateful. I also would never willingly buy a rep no matter how much I want a specific watch. I never expected some sales people to have piss poor customer service as in this industry, first impressions matter. As a result I’ll never ever use that botique for anything omega related anymore. I’d rather give my money to a store that values me
 
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Unfortunately being in college I wish I could drop 6-10k on a new omega. I know once I graduate my career will easily let me afford a new omega. This was a graduation and birthday gift for me and I’m grateful. I also would never willingly buy a rep no matter how much I want a specific watch. I never expected some sales people to have piss poor customer service as in this industry, first impressions matter. As a result I’ll never ever use that botique for anything omega related anymore. I’d rather give my money to a store that values me
I think @Davidt was more aiming towards do your own research and not to expect people at an AD to hand things to you. Not that you need to pony out money to buy new.

Also the boutique and AD. It’s like you walked into a BMW dealership and asked the sales guy is there anything wrong with this used car I purchased from this other dealership?

You simply asked the wrong people the wrong question and I’m guessing you didn’t take no as an answer.

Welcome to the hobby we all make missteps in the beginning as we navigate what we know and what we don’t know. That is even more important than knowing where to go. At this point in the used/vintage game you don’t quite even know what you don’t know yet.

Hang out have fun and learn. 😀 fall in love with pieces you see in the WRUW thread and learn about the model and hunt for great condition good prices. It’s fun and rewarding.
 
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Unfortunately being in college I wish I could drop 6-10k on a new omega. I know once I graduate my career will easily let me afford a new omega. This was a graduation and birthday gift for me and I’m grateful. I also would never willingly buy a rep no matter how much I want a specific watch. I never expected some sales people to have piss poor customer service as in this industry, first impressions matter. As a result I’ll never ever use that botique for anything omega related anymore. I’d rather give my money to a store that values me

You aren’t their customer. You haven’t bought anything from them.

I’m playing devils advocate here. I’d like to think if i worked at an OB I’d be chewing the fat with collectors all day, expanding my knowledge and pouring that out to everyone who came in the showroom. Very few OB staff are like that. Many have an interest in modern Omega to varying degrees but it’s rare to find anyone with decent knowledge of models from 10/30/50+ years ago. They’re simply there to make sales and provide a good experience for those people who are spending money with them.

I also agree that you never know who might become a customer in the future so you should treat everyone well, with respect and give them some time. But not everyone thinks like that.
 
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In my opinion the OP did nothing wrong. While I'm not surprised the OB salesperson acted rudely, that says more about the SA's attitude than the actions of the OP. The SA had a chance to forge a relationship with a potential customer down the line and instead turned the person off. If I was the manager of that OB I would be livid. They aren't selling a commodity product--they are selling luxury goods. Sales are about relationships.

And get off the guy's back about "not doing his research." The watch was a gift. And in order to authenticate the watch he went to people a normal person would assume are experts about Omega watches (the OB). And then he went online and posted on a website that should be visited by some of the most expert Omega enthusiasts in the world.

I say, welcome tarun3232. I hope you enjoy your Seamaster and stick around to post here once in awhile.
 
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My OB experience was much different. One was in Waikiki and I brought my pretty ragged 2298.80 in because it was running erratically. They took it in, noted overall condition, opened it up, verified it genuine and the serial number matched, inspected it, put it on a timegrapher, replaced a few missing tubes in the brabracelet, put it back together, water tested it to 100m, and offered to send it in for service. They provided all of the results and the intake form in a little Omega branded portfolio. Quite professional and respectful.

The OB in Dedham, MA was also very hospitable when I was looking at the Seamaster 300 as a new watch.

The AD in Nashua, NH was absolutely awesome. I bought my new green Seamaster at a great price and they replaced a missing pin and tube in my 2254.50 bracelet that I wore in to pick upy new watch free of charge.

To the OP, I don't know what you specifically asked or how you asked it.

"I just got this watch as a gift, is it genuine?" is different than,

"I've wanted this watch for a long time, my first Omega, and my girlfriend bought it for me. I'm not sure of its condition or if it needs servicing. Can you check it out and advise me?"

Maybe that seems ridiculous, that you have to treat them with kid gloves, but you aren't their customer. You want them to do something they probably really don't want to and really don't advertise doing, but are fully capable of doing.
 
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To the OP, I don't know what you specifically asked or how you asked it.

"I just got this watch as a gift, is it genuine?" is different than,

"I've wanted this watch for a long time, my first Omega, and my girlfriend bought it for me. I'm not sure of its condition or if it needs servicing. Can you check it out and advise me?"
I don't see a distinction between these two approaches.

People need to stop making excuses for sales staff behaving badly.

I've never had to sell anything for a living. But for nearly 10 years I've been General Counsel for a company that makes 100% of its money from sales through salespeople. I've been through hundreds of sales meetings in my time and I know my CEO would have lost his (bleep) if the OB in question here was under his management and he heard this story. This, simply put, is not how a good salesperson treats a potential customer. And please, stop with the "you're not their customer." Prospective customers can be just as valuable as current customers. Only a narrow-minded fool sales representative would draw a distinction here.
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I don't see a distinction between these two approaches.

People need to stop making excuses for sales staff behaving badly.

I've never had to sell anything for a living. But for nearly 10 years I've been General Counsel for a company that makes 100% of its money from sales through salespeople. I've been through hundreds of sales meetings in my time and I know my CEO would have lost his (bleep) if the OB in question here was under his management and he heard this story. This, simply put, is not how a good salesperson treats a potential customer. And please, stop with the "you're not their customer." Prospective customers can be just as valuable as current customers. Only a narrow-minded fool sales representative would draw a distinction here.
Would've lost his bleep eh? what a shit awful situation that'd be! 😀
 
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I don't see a distinction between these two approaches.

People need to stop making excuses for sales staff behaving badly.

I've never had to sell anything for a living. But for nearly 10 years I've been General Counsel for a company that makes 100% of its money from sales through salespeople. I've been through hundreds of sales meetings in my time and I know my CEO would have lost his (bleep) if the OB in question here was under his management and he heard this story. This, simply put, is not how a good salesperson treats a potential customer. And please, stop with the "you're not their customer." Prospective customers can be just as valuable as current customers. Only a narrow-minded fool sales representative would draw a distinction here.

You're not asking them to be a salesperson, are you? You don't seen a distinction here, but there is. Absolutely. One way, you're kind of needy. The other, you come off as understanding their job and the current state of your complete non-relationship. Omega Boutiques and probably most ADs do not, and never have, offered authenticity services. To expect such service from a salesperson on the floor is completely nonsensical. To get it is going the extra mile, which may be nice, but you're talking about an industry that just doesn't operate like that and certainly doesn't need to operate like that to get the sales.
 
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To get it is going the extra mile, which may be nice, but you're talking about an industry that just doesn't operate like that and certainly doesn't need to operate like that to get the sales.
They certainly do.
 
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Would've lost his bleep eh? what a shit awful situation that'd be! 😀
He certainly would have. His goal is for the company to make money. The company makes money by salespeople making sales. And making sales isn't just getting people to sign on the dotted line, it means cultivating relationships that, in this case, causes someone in the future to part with thousands of their dollars in return for product they don't actually need. So yes, he would have lost his (bleep) because the salesperson is being shortsighted and foolish that will, in the long run, cost the company sales.
 
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Too lazy to quote all the posts from you two (@josiahg52 and @502 to right ) but I think you're both right in different ways

Should a sales person provide good service no matter what? Even with no purchase history? Yea I think they should. Omega corporate probably want them to as well.

Do they need to, to make sales? In the recent watch market, sadly no. With demand so high for watches, its been a sellers market and shitty sales people have thrived. Hopefully that is reversing now as demand goes down.

I'm not surprised that a random sales guy in a mall boutique would be an ass though. They probably have no interest in watches, doesn't see their job as a long term thing, their manager probably doesn't care either (or they do and this person wont last much longer), and they're so many steps removed from Omega corporate anyway.