Need your views on this Speedy CK2998

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Don't treat it as fact yet, It was merely a comment someone from the Omega archive made last year at the Speedy Tuesday event. He said that in the past what happened was the client that requested an extract supplied information about the watch, and that supplied information would go on the extract which was a less than ideal situation, as while Omega was meticulous in record keeping, the Lemania produced Speedmasters were one of the black holes in those records that was never filled. I don't know ultimately what came of it and have not tested that.

It depends on how early I guess? No issues getting an extract on my 105.003 last fall.
As no chronograph movement was made in house by Omega between the early 30's and up to modern times I am surprised why just these from the 50's should give them problems?
 
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Did the extract for your 105.003 match the movement to the case reference? Many of these extracts for the 321 issued recently only had movement information and the case reference number was not included
 
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Did the extract for your 105.003 match the movement to the case reference? Many of these extracts for the 321 issued recently only had movement information and the case reference number was not included

Full match.
 
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Did the extract for your 105.003 match the movement to the case reference? Many of these extracts for the 321 issued recently only had movement information and the case reference number was not included

My understanding was that it mainly applied to 2915/2998/105.002, but I was rather drunk that night so I'm not 100% sure what he said, only that in the past case information supplied by the customer had been used on extracts where data was missing and that was no longer going to happen.
 
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Full match.
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That is a very late 105.003 being a '68 even though 105.003s are an early-ish reference, it was the early 60s / late 50s period that the blackspot in records was.
 
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unless very rare exceptions, for which they found new information, no extract delivered for any 320- or 321-caliber based Omega until about 20.525.
 
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That is a very late 105.003 being a '68 even though 105.003s are an early-ish reference, it was the early 60s / late 50s period that the blackspot in records was.

The case ref is -65 so I guess Omega assembled a few some years later?
 
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The case ref is -65 so I guess Omega assembled a few some years later?

yes, they probably oredered A LOT of cases in 1965, the most intriguing being that the case maker remains unknown and only made cases 105.003-65 to my knowledge
 
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The case ref is -65 so I guess Omega assembled a few some years later?

What speedy4ever posted above is what Alain from the archive told us at the Speedy event, the later 321s are not the problem its those early ones that they just don't have recorded information available on.
 
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What speedy4ever posted above is what Alain from the archive told us at the Speedy event, the later 321s are not the problem its those early ones that they just don't have recorded information available on.

exactly. They have not been strict enough for years and one should consider old extract for pre-20.525 with great caution
 
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exactly. They have not been strict enough for years and one should consider old extract for pre-20.525 with great caution

Yea was pretty surprising to hear as he basically said these old ones saying CK2998 were issued almost on the honour system which he found unacceptable given their use by dealers to add credibility to watches being sold

 
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exactly. They have not been strict enough for years and one should consider old extract for pre-20.525 with great caution


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Full match.

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hey, that's interesting! I just looked at my 105003-65 and it was produced in 1967!!! Plus is has movement number from even later !! 25.4 mil! delivered to Venezuela!
 
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Looks like Omega, or rather, Lemania, did not assembled the watches sequentially.

Here is my extract, 105003-65 but really , the production year was 1967! And not only that, movement number is later than yours but production of this watch was a few months before yours... intrigue.
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Looks like Omega, or rather, Lemania, did not assembled the watches sequentially.

Here is my extract, 105003-65 but really , the production year was 1967! And not only that, movement number is later than yours but production of this watch was a few months before yours... intrigue.
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As far as I know, Lemania delivered the movements to Omega in batches. Omega cased them in Bienne. This explains it well as the guys fetching a new batch of movements from the Omega warehouse would mix and match.
 
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HI. Just acquired my first vintage speedy. I went to the Omega website for an extract and it said service not available to US? Am i missing something. I would like an abstract.