Need Some Assistance With This Seamaster De Ville

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Seller claims that the watch was inherited in 2015 and sent to the Omega mothership in Switzerland in 2019 for service. I've seen the service receipt ($1,100 USD!), but it comes from Jared Jewelers and that, among other things, initated a yellow alert iwth me. The case looks brand new, and I mean BRAND NEW (you could slice tomatoes with thoser edges), as does the rest of the watch. Problems that I see:

1. For a mid-60's watch, I've never seen a gloss black dial that looks this fresh that wasn't a redial. Seller claims that Omega wanted to refinish the dial but that he declined to have that done so Omega cleaned it instead. Unlikely.

2. Lumed hands, but no T's on either side of the Swiss Made on the dial. Most Seamaster De Villes from this era of which I'm aware were lumed, both hands and dial. So maybe new lumed hands and a service dial on this example?

3. Look at the upper left quadrant of the dial on the enlarged photo. Looks like only that portion of the dial has a railtrack style of minute track, but the rest of the dial doesn't. Could possibly be a reflection? Otherwise, a really obvious sign of a redial.

4. The Seamaster De Ville text at the bottom of the dial looks too bold to me.

Overall, it's a very attractive watch until I start looking closely. Thoughts? Thank you.
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The rail track you see in the zoomed pic is a reflection. Can’t speak on the other points other than to say it’s a very clean watch, even with the flags you raise.
 
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Hmm..I am curious what other member from here with experience will say about this watch. For me is a very nice watch in very good condition. But if something will be wrong here will not be for the first time when it will happen.
 
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If it's a redial, though, it's a damn good one.
 
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I would want to see another dial shot, I keep going back an forth on the rail track thing, its so damn perfect in that 2nd shot, I find it hard to believe it is a reflection
 
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I've confirmed that it is a reflection. It doesn't appear on the other dial shots that I have.
 
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Yep, that's one of the issues that I noted in my initial post.
 
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The markers have matching lume to the hands, no?
Very likely a service dial, hands and case. It's very nicely done by Omega service, but unfortunately, not original.
 
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It seems unlikely that the dial could have been so bad before service that Omega would have wanted to replace it and yet look so pristine after only cleaning. Unless I underestimate Omega's eagerness to replace dials on vintage watches.
 
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Is there another SMDV example with lume lined indices?
 
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Is there another SMDV example with lume lined indices?

Theyre not that common but this style of lumed marker is seen on Devilles and other, similar late 60’s Omegas.
 
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My theory is, it's redialed, and those aren't lume, they are all white paint, so instead of all onyx, they went with all white
 
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Doesn't really matter at this point. The seller wants $2,300 which would be ridiculous even if the watch was all original. That's pie pan Constellation territory. .
 
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My theory is, it's redialed, and those aren't lume, they are all white paint, so instead of all onyx, they went with all white

Those lumed hour markers are 100% genuine. I’m not saying the dial is, but the markers are not a cause for concern themselves.