Need insight,advice please!

Mike518 · Aug 19, 2022

I have been a collector (mostly Omega,Lucien Picard,Tissot)for a few years, but still a novice in many ways. What a beautiful hobby.
Just Purchased this omega seamaster geneve. I bought it online so all I have is the pictures I was provided with. According to the reference number on the inside of the mechanism it looks like it's a 1969 caliber 565 (ref. 31463332).

It is also hallmarked properly at 18K. My issue was that after researching for a while I can't find another watch that looks just like this.
It almost looks like a Geneve Movement with a Constellation case.

Again I am quite an novice and the seller promises that it's all genuine except the band.. Also I read that in these years the Model names are quite interchangeable.
I appreciate all the advice and comments the members could provide.

Dan S · Aug 19, 2022

The number you included is the serial number, not the reference number. I can't see a reference number, and in fact the case-back looks strange to me. Perhaps it was locally cased, or I guess it could just be the poor photos. Do you see hallmarks on the actual case itself, or are you referring to the engraving inside the case-back?

Olhenry56 · Aug 19, 2022

I came across a somewhat similar looking seamaster a couple of months ago on eBay and posted about it here: https://omegaforums.net/threads/requesting-help-identifying-this-reference.147171/
That one turned out to likely be an Italian case. Perhaps yours is something similar, though definitely different. There were marks of the case maker that gave it away. When you get it and take a look, it should be easier to tell.

Mike518 · Aug 19, 2022

Hi Dan and Henry. Thanks for the quick reply. I was referring to the 18K 750 Hallmark on the inside of the dust cover. This watch is coming from Spain. I read that that cases for see master and Geneve were interchangeable in those days
Is there any truth to that or is that an old wife's tale And if this is a Frankenstein watch does that decrease the value tremendously? I realize that the gold value is always there

Dan S
The number you included is the serial number, not the reference number. I can't see a reference number, and in fact the case-back looks strange to me. Perhaps it was locally cased, or I guess it could just be the poor photos. Do you see hallmarks on the actual case itself, or are you referring to the engraving inside the case-back?

Mike518 · Aug 19, 2022

If you look on the outside of the Case cover it has the same master logo as well. But it has a geneve dial?

Dan S · Aug 19, 2022

There is definitely some overlap between the Geneve, Seamaster, and DeVille lines. However, it's not terribly common to have a Geneve dial (with no Seamaster double branding) and a Seamaster case. It would take some research to figure out if it's original.

Mike518 · Aug 19, 2022

Dan S
There is definitely some overlap between the Geneve, Seamaster, and DeVille lines. However, it's not terribly common to have a Geneve dial (with no Seamaster double branding) and a Seamaster case. It would take some research to figure out if it's original.

Ok Dan I appreciate the u sight

Olhenry56 · Aug 19, 2022

Here is the more detailed photo of the case back. I don't know what to make of those marks. The one at the top is interesting. Looks like a hexagon with a wave inside. Maybe someone here will recognize them.

I found another similar shaped case that I think is Italian-made: 162.90001. But it has a snap back instead of screw back and a different profile between the lugs (and maybe other differences I don't see). https://www.ebay.com/itm/2753773910...55-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050

Mike518 · Aug 20, 2022

M Mike518
Ok Dan I appreciate the u sight

Insight

M Mike518
Ok Dan I appreciate the u sight

Olhenry56
Here is the more detailed photo of the case back. I don't know what to make of those marks. The one at the top is interesting. Looks like a hexagon with a wave inside. Maybe someone here will recognize them.

I found another similar shaped case that I think is Italian-made: 162.90001. But it has a snap back instead of screw back and a different profile between the lugs (and maybe other differences I don't see). https://www.ebay.com/itm/2753773910...55-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050

Thank you Henry. That's a really good example.. the most closest one I think so far

Dan S · Aug 20, 2022

The case maker's stamp appears to be above the 18k stamp. I'm not familiar with that one.

SkunkPrince · Aug 20, 2022

I don't see anything that screams "fake" but it surely is different than we're used to. I wish Omega would still tell you for free what they now charge for. Keep digging, you might find more!

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