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  1. RI Omega Fan Dec 7, 2020

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    Hey folks, I have been sifting through all this, and I’m a bit confused here. The info is scattered throughout several posts, and some of the older links don’t work. Here’s what I have gleaned; please correct or confirm:

    - the Mark IV 1162/173 on Etsy will fit the US 1171 and US Holzer? The ad claims it’s a genuine Omega item. All true?

    - the “Speedmaster 1171 Moonwalk deployment clasp” on Etsy would hopefully fit the US 1171, but does it also fit the US Holzer? The ad claims this is also a genuine Omega item. All true?

    - if these two clasps are genuine Omega, what is the Canada clasp? A link I missed?

    I’m not calling anyone out in particular, but sickboy seemed to be taking the lead on this. Thanks for the clari!
     
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  2. nobbylon Dec 7, 2020

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    The Canada clasp cover is just that. It’s only a cover that replaces the US one. Called ‘Canada’ because he’s a well known seller from there. Some dispute if they are genuine however all I can tell you is thay look the part and fit both the 1171 and flat link bracelets plus genuine 1171/633 bracelet. Sold on ebay, just do a search. I’m very happy with them.
     
  3. nobbylon Dec 7, 2020

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    How do you know they are not genuine. Source of your info?
     
  4. Iceter Dec 8, 2020

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    11434A99-5314-47E0-ABAF-794E59C9F433.jpeg My modern Speedy on a brand new Uncle Seiko Holzer bracelet. Quite a bit more comfortable than the OE bracelet and much lighter while still being solid and secure. I like the look and appreciate having options that don’t cost hundreds of Dollars.
     
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  5. It's Hedley Dec 8, 2020

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    That looks great. I recently purchased the US Flat Link and now I want the Holzer after seeing yours. My Flat Link was a bit of a challenge to resize and install. How about the Holzer?
     
  6. RI Omega Fan Dec 8, 2020

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    Brushed and polished Holzer looks really nice. Mine is all brushed. Should I buy a fourth bracelet from Uncle Seiko?
     
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  7. Iceter Dec 8, 2020

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    I did it in the opposite order from you. I am going to get the flat link next—I just can’t decide if I want the brushed or brushed/polished. I have a good friend with a ‘63 Speedy and it has a modern bracelet on it. I bought him the classic flat link for Christmas and I’ll decide after I see it on his watch.

    As for fit, the Holzer snapped right in with zero drama or refitting needed. In fact, I am particularly pleased with the close fit of the endlinks.
     
  8. Iceter Dec 8, 2020

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    I think you know the answer without having to ask. ;)
     
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  9. JwRosenthal Dec 8, 2020

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    I’m all about the brushed & polished- the case has both finishes, why not show that off?
     
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  10. Au79 Aluminium Dec 13, 2020

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    Here is my experience with Uncle Seiko.

    Thanksgiving week Wednesday, I was sitting around aimlessly browsing the web. With depressing and looming announcement of LA Mayor Garcetti's COVID stay at home order 2.0, I became a little melancholy. So, in an overt attempt to ignore the ubiquitous COVID news, I was searching for something light hearted and harmless. That led me to the Fratello's article and was properly introduced to the "Uncle". From there, I went down the Uncle Seiko rabbit hole.

    I initially only added the 20mm flat links bracelet to the cart with the modest intention of simply testing it out on one of my moon watches. Then, some magical and mysterious force compelled my hand to add the 1171 and the beads of rice bracelets in my cart. Couple unanswered moves of my hands later, I paid for all three Speedy 20mm bracelets and they were on the way.

    Order Experience

    Website was simple and easy to navigate. Ordering was a breeze.

    Major points for shipping speed. It was shipped fast and I received the order fast.

    The bracelets arrived nicely packaged with impeccable wrapping and good presentation. The items were visually beautiful and true to the description.

    Customer Service Experience

    I almost never reach out to customer service because I tend to give the seller the benefit of the doubt and fix the issue myself if possible. Plus, the process of going through customer service with most vendors is often more painful than the product defect itself. But obviously, since I am writing about customer service here, there was an issue I could not ignore.

    The other two bracelets were fine but the 1171 model had a defect. One of the holes for the spring bars did not machine all the way through and it was too small for the bar to pass through.

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    This was an issue I could not resolve easily so I reached out by email. As with the shipping speed, the response from Uncle was fast and efficient. Uncle Larry acknowledged the issue and made the quick and right decision to send partial links of the bracelet with the correctly made hole. Again, the shipping was super fast and was sent out the same day. The issue was resolved quickly and efficiently. Great customer service and perfect execution to resolve a potentially negative experience to a positive one. Awesome job, Uncle.

    Installation and Fit

    Installation was simple and flawless. The pins were easy to remove and reinstall for sizing.

    The fit of the parts were according to expectations. No surprises and everything fit well as can be. I think appropriate expectations is the key here. These are folded links and one's expectations have to meet the limitations of folded links. For those who only wear milled solid links for watch bracelets, know that folded links are not what you might expect. With the folded links, there will be give and play and it is meant to jingle jangle. That is the beauty and the charm of folded link bracelets.

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    Wear and Presentation

    For the Uncle Seiko 1171 the wear experience is on par with my 1171 on my older Speedy.

    Racing Speedy with Uncle 1171.
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    145.022 with Omega 1171
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    I never owned a vintage original Omega beads of rice bracelets so I do not have any reference points for it. I did find that as a generic standalone bracelet, it is satisfying to wear. It is comfortable with vintage feel and well made for the price.

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    I also never had a vintage Omega flat links bracelet. However, I do have the 60th Anniversary Speedy '57, which has the modern milled solid flat links. I never really liked this bracelet due to its weight and the overly large links and clasp. It is just overkill on the smaller case of the 60th Speedy and make it look odd. That might be the reason but versus the Omega milled flat links bracelet, Uncle's flat links are more likeable in my opinion. In the future, I will purchase the 19mm version of the flat links from Uncle Seiko and do a comparison but for now, here is the comparison as they are.

    Omega Solid flat links on 60th Speedy'57.
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    3572.50 with Uncle's stamped flat links.
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    I like the presentation and look of Uncle Seiko's bracelets. I thought I would prefer the flat links out of the 3 before putting them on the watches. However, after installation, I found my favorite to be the 1171. In my opinion, it is the most vintage looking of the three.

    Conclusion

    Thumbs up. From the order process, customer service, to the items themselves, Uncle Seiko's execution is on point. They are fun way to add a little age to your modern Speedy without breaking the bank. Considering the price of the bracelets, they are well made and attractive bracelets that I am completely satisfied with.
     
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  11. rob#1 Dec 13, 2020

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    Great review, thanks. I’m still deciding between the double finished Holzer or the 1171....

    Hey @Uncle Seiko any chances of Omega bracelets being available through your AUS store anytime soon?
     
  12. RI Omega Fan Dec 13, 2020

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    I’ve worn my modern Speedmaster on the US 1171 every day, 24/7, for the past several weeks. It’s absolutely perfect. I have not posted to the WRUW thread in a while because I did not want to bore you folks with the same watch every day.
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    I ordered a US Beads of Rice a couple weeks ago, wore it on the Speedmaster for a couple days, but it then found a new home on another watch. Same thing happened with my US Holzer. (You all know that feeling when a certain band/strap hits a sweet spot on a watch - it’s like “Oh baby, hold your calls, we have a winner!”). I’ll post a picture of those combinations later.
    Don’t get me wrong, they’re all awesome bracelets and all worked great on the Speedmaster, but the US 1171 just hit the right notes for me.
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  13. Cameron_B Jan 1, 2021

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    Hello All,
    Im looking for a pair of Omega 808 or 809 endlinks. Any leads would be appreciated.
     
  14. bazderome Jan 2, 2021

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    You can start from the WTB section here :)
     
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  15. Uncle Seiko Jan 2, 2021

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    No, it has been closed for the foreseeable future.
     
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  16. rob#1 Jan 3, 2021

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    :( Fair enough :thumbsup:
     
  17. Aludic wonders how, continuously Jan 5, 2021

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    Modded an Uncle Seiko flat link and ‘Canadian’ clasp cover. Pretty close to the real thing!

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  18. SlCKB0Y Feb 1, 2021

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    No source. I am going on a few assumptions
    1. The fit and finish is not up to standard for Omega. I’ve handled a bunch of other NOS genuine clasps and with the Canada ones edges of the metal are not particularly well finished and borderline sharp and the brushing is slightly coarser than you’d expect.
    2. I do not believe some random dude in Canada has like 500 NOS clasp covers just hanging around. These were not a service part, you had to buy the whole clasp. Where are all the other parts of the clasp?
    3. It would be really easy for some with a sheet metal press to knock these up and stamp and omega logo on them.
     
  19. SlCKB0Y Feb 1, 2021

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    Yep, if you look at pictures of the old flat links, the Canada covers are a pretty close match and look really good.
     
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  20. SlCKB0Y Feb 1, 2021

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    for me too. It’s just got that real utilitarian feel to it - function over form. Its completely undecorated and exists solely to hold this precision instrument to your wrist with almost unparalleled comfort. It’s just about the most comfortable bracelet I’ve ever used.
     
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