Need help with this unusual piepan connie!

Anj

Usual trawling through listings and I come across this:



Now usually the ones I see with dog legs aren't arrow head markings, is this a redial? And what is up with the yellow tint, is that aging patina?

More pics:









Seems to be a 167.005 case.

I've been waiting for a dog leg arrowhead dial, but I wasn't sure if it was possible - is this the real deal?

Noddyman

There’s something wrong with the case back, it should be flat on the outside not dished.

Peemacgee

The pics aren’t good enough to tell if the dial is the real deal.
167.005 should be too late for an arrowhead.
But perhaps in your excitement at finding an arrowhead dogleg , you’ve missed the obvious tell-tale.
The 167.005 is a no date Connie.
I think that answers your question.

U ulackfocus

Franken.

167.005 is a no date case. That has a date so it should be a 168.005 reference number.

I think you're only chance to get a Pie Pan dial with Arrowhead markers and a date window and dog leg lugs would be inside a 14.902 case - IF (and that's a BIG "if") that combination exists. That combination might have a caliber 50x (501 or 504) or a caliber 561.

Peemacgee

Photos not good enough to be certain but possibly a complete fake.

Noddyman

There’s something wrong with the case back, it should be flat on the outside not dished.

Thatguy

Yep, for styling like this, it should be the 14900 or constellation series with 14xxx reference, for the bowl style it's the 16x.xxx

Thatguy

Fake dial... Franken as well...
Check out the font closely, and MOY aren't aligned with how it's supposed to be ..

ConElPueblo

Nope, depends on the case maker. The style of casebacks on the 14.XXX can also be found on later models.

Peemacgee

And some poor sucker paid $2,850 for it.