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Need help identifying and understanding a watch that I recently acquired

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Hello!

I recently was given a vintage pocketwatch, and I'm having a lot of trouble understanding if it's authentic, if it's a Frankenwatch, what it is even?
I am VERY new to watches, I know almost nothing compared to you guys, and I need some help.
help is greatly appreciated.

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Nice hunter on a lovely Albert
 
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I'd say from the crap phots that it's genuine.

Maybe our experience on Louis Brandt & Freres can offer some input.

@Canuck
 
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Engraved (on Russian):

For humanity and loyalty to duty.
In honor of the Navy.

This appears to be a high-class gift for a Russian naval officer.
 
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Nice gift!
 
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Thanks everyone for the replies!
Is it possible someone could clarify the model or give a reference because I'm still pretty confused 👎👎👎👎👎👎
this was just a gift, and I'm nowhere near a watch expert
Thank you, and sorry!
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Don’t sell it for scrap value..
 
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V vemboy
Not planning on it 😁
Good, let some more folks weigh in.
 
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V vemboy
Thanks everyone for the replies!
Is it possible someone could clarify the model or give a reference because I'm still pretty confused 👎👎👎👎👎👎
this was just a gift, and I'm nowhere near a watch expert
Thank you, and sorry!

I'm not the expert, but I suppose that it's a caliber from Louis Brandt & Freres which called "OMEGA" - 19" caliber.
Omega logo and serial must be stamped on the platina from the side of the dial plate.
Grade C or CC, Swiss patent no: 8760, 4 jewels in screwed collets, swan neck regulator, polished pallet fork with ruby pallets, polished setting parts, Geneva stopwork on the barrel. Manufactured in aprox: 1900-1905.
A piece of history.
 
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SerP SERP
I'm not the expert, but I suppose that it's a caliber from Louis Brandt & Freres which called "OMEGA" - 19" caliber.
Omega logo and serial must be stamped on the platina from the side of the dial plate.
Grade C or CC, Swiss patent no: 8760, 4 jewels in screwed collets, swan neck regulator, polished pallet fork with ruby pallets, polished setting parts, Geneva stopwork on the barrel. Manufactured in aprox: 1900-1905.
A piece of history.

Great info!!!!
Ty so much

I tried googling it but I don’t see any past sale of this specific model, have you found one? Just so I have a reference point of value.
 
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The only thing I would recommend is to auction the item if you are considering selling it, otherwise there is no point in looking for a price.
This item itself is really cool, plus it has provenance thanks to the engraving associated with the Russian Navy

More details about the 19" caliber, which looks the same: https://urdelar.se/products/omega-19-cal-omega-19-loc
 
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SerP SERP
The only thing I would recommend is to auction the item if you are considering selling it, otherwise there is no point in looking for a price.
This item itself is really cool, plus it has provenance thanks to the engraving associated with the Russian Navy

More details about the 19" caliber, which looks the same: https://urdelar.se/products/omega-19-cal-omega-19-loc

I was thinking of auctioning it as well, since I’ve never auctioned an item and I think it would be an extremely fun experience 😀
If anyone has any auction companies/services they would recommend for this type of item (in nyc preferably), don’t hesitate to let me know!

thanks everyone
 
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I'd say from the crap phots that it's genuine.

Maybe our experience on Louis Brandt & Freres can offer some input.

@Canuck

Because I own two Brandt CCRs doesn't make me an expert on Brandt watches. Brandt CCRs, CCCRs, DDRs, and DDDrs were approved for railroad use in Canada in 1910. They were no longer on the approved list by 1957. Time service rules changed over time. The subject watch would not have been approved for railroad use in North America because of the hunter case. Approved in Europe? No idea. Prior to the name change to Omega, watches watches made by Brandt had the Brandt name on them. The Brandt name has kept popping up on occasion, since the founding of Omega. Usually applied to specialty or higher end products made by Omega.

Back to the subject Brandt watch. This basic movement was produced with both Omega and Brandt names. Those with the Brandt name tended to be outfitted with higher jewel counts and patent regulators. This watch was not likely ever railroad approved, but who knows!

Omega has typically been inclined to limit the number of Omega dealers in markets where the watches are sold. If a watch dealer was also a railroad watch inspector, and he didn’t have a franchise to carry Omega yet wanted Omega watches, it came in handy for the company to be able to sell him Brandt watches.
 
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