Hi all,

I am looking at a speedy that is from 1992 and would like to have your opinion on this. I am very much a speedy noob. I am unsure about some of the parts found on this watch and would like to know your judgemet on those - Dial, bezel and hands ETC.

Thanks for all your help

 

Additionally, the serial number on the case is different to the movement. Is this normal for the Speedmaster Professional of this era, is not connected in any with the movement serial number. Is the serial on the case simply a case number? Thanks

 

No, it is not normal. Serial numbers on the movement and serial numbers on the bottom of the midcase should match.

 

Spot on - they should be the same number, and if not it's a franken of some kind...

 

Have 1991 Speedmaster. Case does not have the serial number. Case serial number and movement serial didn’t start till later in the 90’s correct?

 

@The Father I believe that is correct. Do you have an extract for your 1991? I am a little nervous to state an exact year without one.

Couple more things to point out for @LM2611

1. I believe the hands are superluminova (service hands). Look at how white the lume is in comparison to the hand paint.

2. Look at the black retainer ring at around 9:30. It’s cracked and *edit (I guess this is normal). You can see this in both pictures showing the dial.

3. Bezel looks fine (it’s not an accented e and it isn’t a tall font). I forget the version name, but many examples I’ve seen share this bezel including one I own. Dial also looks correct, but I would want to see it in some other light (looks a bit whiter than I would expect). Bracelet also looks good but the case does show wear from strap changes (not a big deal to me but is to some).

 

I have no idea how the OP dated the watch in question - as we know there are serial number listings that can be very misleading out on the internet, so the whole idea of "should it have a serial number or not" to me isn't terribly relevant until we confirm the dating of the watch. But regardless of that if it has one and it doesn't match the one on the movement, this already identifies it as a franken no matter what the age is.

The split in the tension ring is completely normal. Omega usually positions it near the bottom of the dial so it's less obvious, but they all have this.

 

is going to check all his Speedies... but already knows @Archer is correct haha

Well the hands still suck! Then again it does mean that this watch likely found its way to a watchmaker at some point... which is more than many watches can say

 

Serial # on movement is correct year. Dealer I purchased from has top of line watches and would not obfuscate on the specifics of the watches. Best thing I ever bought....so far.
1995 was the year that case and movement both had matching numbers. (I believe)

 

Correct according to what? This is no dig at your watch or at your watch guy, I’m just saying that it’s hard to pinpoint dates on these. Archer suggested the same thing above with the internet serial ranges being a bit misleading.

I’m going to say it was before 1995. I have a Speedmaster that was purchased in January of 1993 with a matching serial on the case and movement (and warranty card).

 

Serial case mismatch...

Tritium dial, appears to have luminova hands which are post 1999....

I’d pass.

Why is the rehaut clipping the T Swiss made T?

 

Serial number 482575xx

1991 ST 145.0022 861 4825xxxxx
From the various sites that list serial #’s and the corresponding years of production

Would have to believe the sites are pretty accurate.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original...611446?hash=item364daff636:g:ZeMAAOSwO~Zc1Y8XPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/omega/speedmaster--id11210720.htm

These were the 2

 

My ‘91 has the serial on the lug and it matches the movement

 

Really? ILMS gives March 1990 for that serial with 5s for the 2 missing digits. The only way to be 100% sure is an extract. There is another thread discussing exactly this issue on here at present:

See:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/help-with-3590-50.95566/

 

What do I know.