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My Omega SM300 Military Spec
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SubKing
·I have to say it's pretty upsetting to come on here to share a new purchase, then to have my piece scrutinized to the point that it's authenticity is being questioned, when this very watch has been used as a reference years before the bonhams auction (seen here https://www.mwrforum.net/forums/sho...-Military-Seamaster-300-Dial-Reference-Thread) , on the military watch forums as being correct, no one had anything bad to say about the dial then. Also, I would like to think a major auction house knows a proper dial when they see one.
It seems like there is alot of uncertainty with some of the members comments here in regards to my watch. Either you think the dial is fake or it's not? However I seem to be finding many examples with the same traits as mine. As for the bezel that is photographed in the auction listing, that bezel looks like a later service style bezel judging by the font style and not correct for the piece. So if someone placed a bezel with correct military font on the watch and replaced it with something that wasn't correct to begin with, then I'm fine with that. However, the dial is now of a concern, however it seems many are unsure now about their original suspicions. so some clarity would be much appreciated
It seems like there is alot of uncertainty with some of the members comments here in regards to my watch. Either you think the dial is fake or it's not? However I seem to be finding many examples with the same traits as mine. As for the bezel that is photographed in the auction listing, that bezel looks like a later service style bezel judging by the font style and not correct for the piece. So if someone placed a bezel with correct military font on the watch and replaced it with something that wasn't correct to begin with, then I'm fine with that. However, the dial is now of a concern, however it seems many are unsure now about their original suspicions. so some clarity would be much appreciated
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w154
·I have to say it's pretty upsetting to come on here to share a new purchase, then to have my piece scrutinized to the point that it's authenticity is being questioned, when this very watch has been used as a reference years before the bonhams auction, on the military watch forums as being correct.
I can certainly understand that, especially given that it won’t have been a cheap purchase, but IF there is something wrong then wouldn’t you rather know ? And for collective knowledge it’s better that facts are out there in the public domain.
And I’m not sure you could describe the MWR post as being a reference for correctness and originality. I think it’s just a compilation of variations that have been seen.
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·I can certainly understand that, especially given that it won’t have been a cheap purchase, but IF there is something wrong then wouldn’t you rather know ? And for collective knowledge it’s better that facts are out there in the public domain.
And I’m not sure you could describe the MWR post as being a reference for correctness and originality. I think it’s just a compilation of variations that have been seen.
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izydor
·I have to say it's pretty upsetting to come on here to share a new purchase, then to have my piece scrutinized to the point that it's authenticity is being questioned, when this very watch has been used as a reference years before the bonhams auction (seen here https://www.mwrforum.net/forums/sho...-Military-Seamaster-300-Dial-Reference-Thread) , on the military watch forums as being correct, no one had anything bad to say about the dial then. Also, I would like to think a major auction house knows a proper dial when they see one.
Sorry for starting this, my intention was not to question the authenticity - especially considering that I'm new to vintage watches and most of what I've learned comes from OF, I don't feel like I have a right to question anything. I can only ask... questions. 😉
BT crossing minute markers seems to be ruled out I guess.
The "closed" 6 is what caught my eye, because this is something that I've found in some "buyer's guide" for SM300 (even though I'm not even close to buying one anytime soon 🤦) - that neither 6 nor 9 should be done this way. Might be wrong, perhaps? I'll try to find that page.
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·Sorry for starting this, my intention was not to question the authenticity - especially considering that I'm new to vintage watches and most of what I've learned comes from OF, I don't feel like I have a right to question anything. I can only ask... questions. 😉
BT crossing minute markers seems to be ruled out I guess.
The "closed" 6 is what caught my eye, because this is something that I've found in some "buyer's guide" for SM300 (even though I'm not even close to buying one anytime soon 🤦) - that neither 6 nor 9 should be done this way. Might be wrong, perhaps? I'll try to find that page.
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23509/lot/203/
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·here is a picture of a collector from instagram that I have spoken to as well and one of his mil sm300 also has this rare b6tbl blue tinted bezel as well like mine. pic for reference
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JanV
·Just a thought, how was the numbers and text printed on the SM300 dials around this era?
There was a thread on Rolex forum that the pad used for printing some dials wore down rapidly and thus making the print on later made dials “bolder” and not as sharp as the pads wore out.
Could this give us an explanation?
There was a thread on Rolex forum that the pad used for printing some dials wore down rapidly and thus making the print on later made dials “bolder” and not as sharp as the pads wore out.
Could this give us an explanation?
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Dash1
·Personally I think the dial is okay, just a bit sloppy printing. The bezel that was on the watch previously is an earlier type not later. I guess a previous owner swapped it to what they thought was more correct for an issued 0552.
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·Just a thought, how was the numbers and text printed on the SM300 dials around this era?
There was a thread on Rolex forum that the pad used for printing some dials wore down rapidly and thus making the print on later made dials “bolder” and not as sharp as the pads wore out.
Could this give us an explanation?
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ortope
·Here is mine from 1970:
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bags1971
·I think its ok and as #Dash1 said sloppy printing you got to remember when these were made no one gave a toss is if there was a slight defect on the dial as they were after all worn to be used and abused
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·Personally I think the dial is okay, just a bit sloppy printing. The bezel that was on the watch previously is an earlier type not later. I guess a previous owner swapped it to what they thought was more correct for an issued 0552.
So all seems correct to me and as others have recently pointed out, looks correct to them as well. I sent @kox a PM so I am hoping he chimes in soon with his expertise.
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·another Fat closed 6 BT dial just like mine for reference
and another
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valkyrie_rider
·@SubKing welcome to the forum. It is a beautiful timepiece!
The OF has members that have deep knowledge on vintage omega watches and a good spirit towards sharing information.
I'm a newbie here (following for just a few months), but I feel that the questions concerning your watch were in good faith.
Enjoy your watch and wear it in good health.
😀
The OF has members that have deep knowledge on vintage omega watches and a good spirit towards sharing information.
I'm a newbie here (following for just a few months), but I feel that the questions concerning your watch were in good faith.
Enjoy your watch and wear it in good health.
😀
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Foo2rama
··Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can.Is it possible that these are service dials put on while they where still being issued and returned? I don’t know how long these where in use. I know earlier MOD pieces have variations due to this.
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jaguar11
·I am not suitably qualified to comment on the minutiae of detail and these days are take more care on what I choose to spend my time on. Either way it looks great. I hope it is all square for you. Best wishes.
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ortope
·This is watch that was "inspired" by the Seamaster Military:
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·This is watch that was "inspired" by the Seamaster Military:
