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·No intention of selling. I can understand purists mentality but not one them. I just enjoy what I have-without headaches. Thanks.
My First Date Just 1601
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·Sun finally peeked thru our window. Again I hope these are good enough for 321only - as requested. Thanks.
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·The purist in me does not like this dial-swapping degeneracy...
If you're selling a watch I hope you'll at least tell the buyer that it has had a dial swapped at some point. Maybe even provide the old one. (not for free, of course...) Or swap it back.
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dx009
·I had the same thinking as a purist myself, but as you suggest- if the original dial accompanies the watch, or it is put back to factory spec before sale- I see no degradation to the originality of the watch at all. That’s what my thinking was at least when I did the dial swap to my Ak.
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bubu16
·I just realized re dial switched. First of all, I have no intention of selling this DJ. Also, If i posted something that is inappropriate, moderators please feel free to delete this posts/ threads. Thanks.
best to everyone.
best to everyone.
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·I just realized re dial switched. First of all, I have no intention of selling this DJ. Also, If i posted something that is inappropriate, moderators please feel free to delete this posts/ threads. Thanks.
best to everyone.
It’s your watch- paint it teal and put a pink flamingo dial on it if you wish and post a pic- it’s still a genuine Rolex so no issue there on the “post no fakes” issue.
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·Aaaah-good to know . Thanks. BTW-redialed? Isn't that a refinished dial? The brown/red is a refinished one?
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·Then I might not be understanding your original post- did the seller tell you this was a factory Rolex dial that came in this color or the original color has shifted with age, a refinished Rolex dial (which is the same as the term “redial” which is used around here), or a fake Rolex dial?
The dial on my OPD is a factory black dial that was pulled from another watch. I swapped my silver dial for it- so technically, it is factory correct, using factory parts- just a different color dial than the case serial # came with (and I still have the original). If I had the original dial repainted- that would be a “redial” or refurbished dial. If we get into the semantics of original dials versus non original dials, many watches that go in for a factory service (particularly Rolex or Omega) with a damaged dial will get a factory “service dial”. It is still a genuine factory part, and is correct for the watch- but is not the dial that came with the watch...but that doesn’t make it a “redial”, just a replacement factory service dial.
The dial on my OPD is a factory black dial that was pulled from another watch. I swapped my silver dial for it- so technically, it is factory correct, using factory parts- just a different color dial than the case serial # came with (and I still have the original). If I had the original dial repainted- that would be a “redial” or refurbished dial. If we get into the semantics of original dials versus non original dials, many watches that go in for a factory service (particularly Rolex or Omega) with a damaged dial will get a factory “service dial”. It is still a genuine factory part, and is correct for the watch- but is not the dial that came with the watch...but that doesn’t make it a “redial”, just a replacement factory service dial.
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dx009
·It’s your watch- paint it teal and put a pink flamingo dial on it if you wish and post a pic- it’s still a genuine Rolex so no issue there on the “post no fakes” issue.
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·Actually you better not let Rolex see this as they've been on a craze lately to sue even those that customize Rolexes. Companies that is... though I wouldn't be surprised if they'd pick on someone selling a custom-made Rolex for a profit as well...🍿
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·Actually you better not let Rolex see this as they've been on a craze lately to sue even those that customize Rolexes. Companies that is... though I wouldn't be surprised if they'd pick on someone selling a custom-made Rolex for a profit as well...🍿
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·Here you go sir. I had never heard of this company and although I usually prefer all-original parts I quite like some of their dials. On one hand I find it absurd that Rolex is suing them for this but on the other hand I guess I understand their point of view as well. I can't figure out who is right, honestly.
https://www.rescapement.com/blog/rolex-is-suing-la-californienne-for-its-custom-counterfeit-watches
https://www.watchpro.com/rolex-calls-custom-watchmaker-a-counterfeiter-in-landmark-court-case/
In this case we're talking about companies not average people so it might be different. Nonetheless there are some nasty things that eBay does to some sellers when they're selling watches that some company doesn't want them to sell. It has happened to me personally. I had a discontinued (not expensive or anything) Doxa quartz and supposedly someone from Doxa complained about it to eBay and they deleted my listing and forbade me from listing it again. It was a pre-owned watch in as new condition with box and papers.
https://www.rescapement.com/blog/rolex-is-suing-la-californienne-for-its-custom-counterfeit-watches
https://www.watchpro.com/rolex-calls-custom-watchmaker-a-counterfeiter-in-landmark-court-case/
In this case we're talking about companies not average people so it might be different. Nonetheless there are some nasty things that eBay does to some sellers when they're selling watches that some company doesn't want them to sell. It has happened to me personally. I had a discontinued (not expensive or anything) Doxa quartz and supposedly someone from Doxa complained about it to eBay and they deleted my listing and forbade me from listing it again. It was a pre-owned watch in as new condition with box and papers.
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·This is beyond absurd. What about modified cars, etc.? Crazy world we live in and I thought it happens only in "politics" the past 3 years.
Dial to me is a "refinished" dial-meaning OG but refurbished. Redial can be define in so many ways. Good thing we don't use "rotary" phones anymore (lol).
Then I might not be understanding your original post- did the seller tell you this was a factory Rolex dial that came in this color or the original color has shifted with age, a refinished Rolex dial (which is the same as the term “redial” which is used around here), or a fake Rolex dial?
The dial on my OPD is a factory black dial that was pulled from another watch. I swapped my silver dial for it- so technically, it is factory correct, using factory parts- just a different color dial than the case serial # came with (and I still have the original). If I had the original dial repainted- that would be a “redial” or refurbished dial. If we get into the semantics of original dials versus non original dials, many watches that go in for a factory service (particularly Rolex or Omega) with a damaged dial will get a factory “service dial”. It is still a genuine factory part, and is correct for the watch- but is not the dial that came with the watch...but that doesn’t make it a “redial”, just a replacement factory service dial.
Dial to me is a "refinished" dial-meaning OG but refurbished. Redial can be define in so many ways. Good thing we don't use "rotary" phones anymore (lol).
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bubu16
·Sorry "Redial to me" for the above response. Thanks
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·Here you go sir. I had never heard of this company and although I usually prefer all-original parts I quite like some of their dials. On one hand I find it absurd that Rolex is suing them for this but on the other hand I guess I understand their point of view as well. I can't figure out who is right, honestly.
https://www.rescapement.com/blog/rolex-is-suing-la-californienne-for-its-custom-counterfeit-watches
https://www.watchpro.com/rolex-calls-custom-watchmaker-a-counterfeiter-in-landmark-court-case/
In this case we're talking about companies not average people so it might be different. Nonetheless there are some nasty things that eBay does to some sellers when they're selling watches that some company doesn't want them to sell. It has happened to me personally. I had a discontinued (not expensive or anything) Doxa quartz and supposedly someone from Doxa complained about it to eBay and they deleted my listing and forbade me from listing it again. It was a pre-owned watch in as new condition with box and papers.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/the...ated-legal-matters.106271/page-3#post-1409276
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