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tdn-dk
路Got this for ca. 700$ years ago 馃榾
My Early Seamaster 120 Divers. What to look for and what to avoid.
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JwRosenthal
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....when it鈥檚 what they were worth.
I think many of us got some of our prize watches long before the craziness that is the current watch market. It鈥檚 important to remember that when new members come to this thread looking for advise on buying, the landscape has changed. We can鈥檛 apply what we knew about the market to what is now.
We see a never ending stream of Speedy鈥檚 and SM300鈥檚 out there- but these 120鈥檚 seem far rarer in comparison.
I鈥檓 all for trying to get a bargain when I can, but the 120 seems to have Sky-rocketed in demand over the last couple years and good examples are getting harder to find....shit- any example that isn鈥檛 a fake!
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la_lusigne
路Here is my 120, just to contribute to this thread
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kaplan
路Chrono's are $1100-1500 as far as I see, but if it's that good in condition, I guess ~$1600 and the market has doubled? I think, apart from flippers/scalpers and fake buyer/sellers - the prices seem deserved - I bought a Stowa for ~1000 euros that I enjoy and wear daily, comparatively, my almost-NOS 168.029 need to be $10k+ - but it was less than 1000 euros
fyi, most sales on Reddit are fake I assume, there's a mafia-like grouping where watches are sold to someone, then the watch reappers from the so-called buyer as a re-sell from a lower price, and in the process both parties increase their transaction#
This is a near-NOS 136.027 - as I read from comments, the flipper bought from eBay for cheap, I assume around or less than $1000 - and assumably flipped for $2500 https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/comments/eoci81/wts_1969_omega_seamaster_120_136027/
So I guess it's not that unrealistic to expect a near-NOS example for $1500 - I want a used up one for $1000 馃榿 (but I guess realistically it'll be a catch even at $1200-$1500 for a used up one)
fyi, most sales on Reddit are fake I assume, there's a mafia-like grouping where watches are sold to someone, then the watch reappers from the so-called buyer as a re-sell from a lower price, and in the process both parties increase their transaction#
This is a near-NOS 136.027 - as I read from comments, the flipper bought from eBay for cheap, I assume around or less than $1000 - and assumably flipped for $2500 https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/comments/eoci81/wts_1969_omega_seamaster_120_136027/
So I guess it's not that unrealistic to expect a near-NOS example for $1500 - I want a used up one for $1000 馃榿 (but I guess realistically it'll be a catch even at $1200-$1500 for a used up one)
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Man that is clean! I see it also has a stainless sweep hand. Which bracelet is that? I really like the look of it.
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la_lusigne
路The bracelet isn鈥檛 the one that is originally made for the 120 but it is for another reference that has the same case shape so it fits like a glove
As you can see on the photos : 524 endlinks and bracelet ref 1069 No.12
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uwsearch
路Seamaster 120 were delivered originally on 1067/512, and then on 1098/547 and 1069/524 too...
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la_lusigne
路Seamaster 120 were delivered originally on 1067/512, and then on 1098/547 and 1069/524 too...
I was basing this info on that ad found in an another thread.
I thought that only bracelets with 547 endlinks were for this reference
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JwRosenthal
路Oh didn鈥檛 know that, thanks for the correction!
I was basing this info on that ad found in an another thread.
I thought that only bracelets with 547 endlinks were for this reference
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la_lusigne
路It looks horrible- not at all correct- I will graciously dispose of it for you 馃槈
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JwRosenthal
路...and on the bracelets, was the 1098 and the one pictured in the advertisement above made by Jacoby Bender for Omega (the one in the ad looks like the bullet bracelet)? I know they had several contractors, but the similarity between those and two that I have are uncanny- although my endlinks are all around 17.5 to fit Bulova.
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CKY
路Hello all,
I have a 166.027 and also no bezel. Please anyone tell me inner and outer diameter of bezel. I measured the glass which is 31mm.
I am trying to search a substitued bezel.
Thank you in advance.
CK
I have a 166.027 and also no bezel. Please anyone tell me inner and outer diameter of bezel. I measured the glass which is 31mm.
I am trying to search a substitued bezel.
Thank you in advance.
CK
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wcm82
路In all seriousness - the bezels don't come up very often. I've been looking for one daily for the last 6 months without any luck. At this point I am expecting the search for a bezel to take years. Make sure if you're looking at one that you get the proper sized bezel, ladies bezels appear from time to time but are a smaller size and wont fit.
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CKY
路Hey CKY - Welcome to the club 馃榾
In all seriousness - the bezels don't come up very often. I've been looking for one daily for the last 6 months without any luck. At this point I am expecting the search for a bezel to take years. Make sure if you're looking at one that you get the proper sized bezel, ladies bezels appear from time to time but are a smaller size and wont fit.
Hi wcm82, thank you for your info. Really hope someone could advise the outer and inner diameter of original bezel so that I can find the proper bezel. Thank you all.
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JwRosenthal
路Until there is someone who dares to make a reproduction bezel for these- we are SOL since Omega clearly doesn鈥檛 care.
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CKY
路You鈥檙e not likely to find the correct factory bezel, and if one did pop up, the competition would be fierce. Your best bet is to go by the demensions around the crystal and try to find a generic bezel from another watch (perhaps another 60鈥檚 skindiver) that uses a tension wire to hold in place and hope it fits and stays in place.
Until there is someone who dares to make a reproduction bezel for these- we are SOL since Omega clearly doesn鈥檛 care.
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wcm82
路You鈥檙e not likely to find the correct factory bezel, and if one did pop up, the competition would be fierce. Your best bet is to go by the demensions around the crystal and try to find a generic bezel from another watch (perhaps another 60鈥檚 skindiver) that uses a tension wire to hold in place and hope it fits and stays in place.
Until there is someone who dares to make a reproduction bezel for these- we are SOL since Omega clearly doesn鈥檛 care.
I bought a random bezel off a 70's watch on Ebay for mine until I track a correct bezel down like JwRosenthal suggested.
From the listing here are the dimensions, it snapped right on with the use of a press (it had the spring on the back).
Size : 37,01mm diameter - 31,21mm inside - 33,16mm case connection
Thickness : 3,39mm.
Works well for me 馃榾
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JwRosenthal
路I bought a random bezel off a 70's watch on Ebay for mine until I track a correct bezel down like JwRosenthal suggested.
From the listing here are the dimensions, it snapped right on with the use of a press (it had the spring on the back).
Size : 37,01mm diameter - 31,21mm inside - 33,16mm case connection
Thickness : 3,39mm.
Works well for me 馃榾
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CKY
路I bought a random bezel off a 70's watch on Ebay for mine until I track a correct bezel down like JwRosenthal suggested.
From the listing here are the dimensions, it snapped right on with the use of a press (it had the spring on the back).
Size : 37,01mm diameter - 31,21mm inside - 33,16mm case connection
Thickness : 3,39mm.
Works well for me 馃榾
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wcm82
路I never saw the complete watch I am afraid - only the bezel was offered on ebay. The seller listed the dimensions so and they matched close enough to what I took with a micrometer so I took a chance. Looks like ebay no longer has the listing viewable or I would pull the photo. I didn't have much luck even finding a substitute until I started searching for "Skin Diver" as that is what they were called in the 60's and 70's.
Here is the photo I took a few days back when I posted it in the thread, she's plenty beat-up but its become my daily driver none the less 馃榾
