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Hi guys, glad to be on the forums, I've had a look on here a few times when trying to find any info on this watch but I only just got around to actually making an account, so thanks for approving me 馃榾

I inherited this watch a few years ago, and I have no reason to believe it is fake but its not out of the question I guess. But, I can't find any examples that are the same as this one - black box around date, close "swiss made", the same hour markings, and the same case shape.

I have no idea of the value, but if anyone has any idea please let me know 馃榾 I forgot to include a picture of the back but it is plain silver with no markings. I have not taken it off, and for now I would like to avoid messing with it - I don't have the money to take it in for a service currently. As I don't plan on selling and am happy with it in its current state, I'm just looking for some info on it.

Thanks in advance

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Nevermind, apparently they refuse to add correctly on the site, they upload but I can't add them to the post.
EDIT2: Got it, I had to use a lower resolution. They can be viewed and downloaded at full res here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/187026654@N02/49550858827/in/album-72157713154893053/


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Please post photos and not links, you鈥檒l get more response.
 
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Please post photos and not links, you鈥檒l get more response.

Apologies, on most forums I've been on they prefer a link to a gallery over direct photos. I'll edit the post 馃榾
 
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Probably am reference 166.0163.

Lots of variation of hand/dial combinations were offered, finding an exact match may be difficult.

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Probably am reference 166.0163.

Lots of variation of hand/dial combinations were offered, finding an exact match may be difficult.

Thank you, I appreciate your response. I think you are correct, but having searched for a while I am still somewhat lost - I can't find a single example with the same flat hour marks, or even just the combo of close "swiss made" and the new(?) more circular Omega logo. This one is close - https://www.poshtime.com/501.016/Omega-Geneve-166.0163-Auto-c.1972.php but it features bevelled hour marks and a stouter logo. I will attach a couple of images showing what I mean. I will also add an image of the back, which I find hard to believe is genuine.

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I think your G猫neve is on the cusp between when G猫neve was a high end line and later became a mid range item.

The hour markers appear to be inlaid with Onyx strips which is not usually seen on mid range models.

Trying to find an exact match of a watch that's at least 50 years old is like finding a needle in a haystack, especially as Omega produced so many dial variations of the same model of watch.

The only way to identify your watch for sure is to open it.

A guide to identifying is here.
 
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That would put it at mid 1960s. I think it鈥檚 later than that Jim. The fonts and case design look mid 1970s to me. I think X350 XJR pretty much nailed it above, it鈥檚 likely a 10XX movement model. The black markers are likely paint rather than onyx.

I had something similar, model 166.0202 but mine was plated. Pic stolen from net for this model


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Why do you think the back is suspect?

I haven't seen that back on any other examples, I assumed that most backs would bear some marking on the exterior and that this would have been a replacement but perhaps not.

JimInOz JimInOz
I think your G猫neve is on the cusp between when G猫neve was a high end line and later became a mid range item.

The hour markers appear to be inlaid with Onyx strips which is not usually seen on mid range models.

Trying to find an exact match of a watch that's at least 50 years old is like finding a needle in a haystack, especially as Omega produced so many dial variations of the same model of watch.

The only way to identify your watch for sure is to open it.

A guide to identifying is here.

I understand that it would be challenging to find an exact match but surely not being able to find a single example with the same markers, or a single example with the same combo of logo/swiss made is a little strange? Surely those things on their own shouldn't be too hard. Perhaps I am misestimating the task!

How do you suggest I proceed? I am quite content just owning the watch, but as I'm sure you understand I am pretty curious. I do not want to take the back off myself, but I would be open to the idea of letting a professional have a look inside. I don't expect I can just take the watch into a watch repair place or an Omega store and ask them to open it up and let me take some pictures for free, do you have any idea what kind of price I would be looking at just to open it up?

Much apreciated!
 
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Thank you, I appreciate your response. I think you are correct, but having searched for a while I am still somewhat lost - I can't find a single example with the same flat hour marks, or even just the combo of close "swiss made" and the new(?) more circular Omega logo. This one is close - https://www.poshtime.com/501.016/Omega-Geneve-166.0163-Auto-c.1972.php but it features bevelled hour marks and a stouter logo. I will attach a couple of images showing what I mean. I will also add an image of the back, which I find hard to believe is genuine.

IMGP4345 by Dubu, on Flickr
IMGP4350 by Dubu, on Flickr
IMGP4360 by Dubu, on Flickr
IMGP4361 by Dubu, on Flickr

that鈥檚 a mechanical watch. You post a late 70鈥檚 -mid 80鈥檚 quartz in Your initial post.
 
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166.0202 is a snap back.
We haven鈥檛 seen the OP watch back yet. Doh yes we have. Confusing thread!
 
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that鈥檚 a mechanical watch. You post a late 70鈥檚 -mid 80鈥檚 quartz in Your initial post.

I'm almost certain that this watch is mechanical, seeing that it hasn't had a battery in it for over 20 years and yet started up as soon as I took it out of my drawer today.
 
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The caseback shape makes me think it may have a 5XX series auto, not a flat movement like a 1000 series.

Nobody will know until it's opened.
 
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Lol I can鈥檛 keep up with the OP edits! It鈥檚 easiest when the pictures are there in the first post. Ok so not the 0202 but it sure looks mid 70s so a similar model I would say. It certainly has a similar dial. That鈥檚 probably paint not onyx

Could it be a 70s replacement dial on a 60s watch?
 
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Lol I can鈥檛 keep up with the OP edits! It鈥檚 easiest when the pictures are there in the first post. Ok so not the 0202 but it sure looks mid 70s so a similar model I would say. It certainly has a similar dial. That鈥檚 probably paint not onyx

Could it be a 70s replacement dial on a 60s watch?
Yup that鈥檚 what threw me.
 
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Lol I can鈥檛 keep up with the OP edits! It鈥檚 easiest when the pictures are there in the first post. ...........................

Yeah, I understand, I didn't know what was going on with the links. What a fuckin PITA they are. How hard is it to put a picture on here so we can look at it properly instead of on cap like photobucket and flkr.

OPs indices look like onyx to me.

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Yeah, I understand, I didn't know what was going on with the links. What a fuckin PITA they are. How hard is it to put a picture on here so we can look at it properly instead of on cap like photobucket and flkr.

OPs indices look like onyx to me.

Apologies, the add photo button in the editor prompts for a URL, but I've just seen the "ADD PHOTOS" button at the bottom. I will edit OP to include all photos 馃榾
 
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