@Northernman
welcome to the Majetek club! Such awesome pieces. Yours is a 50’s edition?
I’d post my Longines version but this is a Lemania thread.
That watch is simply awesome! 🥰
Are there names or reference numbers for any of these?
For the stop-watch I do not have the details, but the others are as follows:
Top left: 11003
Top right: 9802
Bottom left: 11010
Please note that for the 11xxx references you may find variants with either the caliber 5100 or 5012. Best distinguished by the 24h indication sub dial in the 12o'clock position not present for a cal 5012.
Lemania used reference numbers for the case. Dial and movements may vary!
Cheers,
Anders
Alongside Northernman's excellent information on the case references, I can also add:
Top Left - this is a project watch. LM5100 from a bi-colour Lorenz, Heuer Cortina Case, non-branded dial & handset
Top right - I've always known this as a 5012 '140/142' due to the same case type as the Sinns with those references
Bottom left - I've always known this as the Lemania 'Silverstone' being virtually identical to the Heuer version
Hi!
The Hauer connection to the 11xxx reference watches (left side) is not coincidental.
At the time these watches was made, "Nouvelle Lemania", under the control of the Piaget family, was the owner of Heuer.
Heuer did not make movements themselves. And with Lemania ownership, Heuer watches was made with Lemania movements.
The "Lemania years" of Heuer was 1982-1986, when Heuer was changed into TAG Heuer.
This device is actually pretty rare on R 25.
Hi all, here's my own Lemania, an early 3600. Its serial number is 598783, so I'd guess something like 1954. Even if it's not written on the dial it's the 21 jewels movement inside. I remember seeing earlier 3600 movements with only 17 jewels and nickel or rhodium plating, do some of you have one of these ?
Actually I find this device not so rare with the Lip R25, at least from my experience I have frequently seen it. Note it is also present on the earliest versions of the R23 and on the R27 (an electric watch with a Breguet overcoil !).
Cool watch!
The caliber 3600 was introduced in 1951 according to my lists. It was updated in 1958 and became the 3610 (from serial number 1 118 001).
The differences between 3600 and 3610 are improvements to the winding mechanism.
Your estimation of production year based on serial is spot on. 1953/1954 according to my info.
I have not seen 17j variants. If you have some links, please share!
OF member @Mitka serviced a 3600 for me some time back. I like these a lot!!!
https://workshop.mitka.co.uk/cgi-bin/library?action=show_photos&wat_id=178
Cheers!
👍
Thanks a lot ! I love these watches too, most reliable automatics ever made I think, they're so simple and well made not much can go wrong 😉
I'm curious, where did you get your lists ? According to what I've read*, the 3600 was marketed in 1953. Here's btw a bad picture I spotted on the bay some years ago of the earlier 17j version but in bad shape, serial 504594. You can also note the balance wheel is not in beryllium alloy like latter examples, it really feels like a cheaper version. I wonder if this version was only sold the first year of introduction, scarce as they are ?
Cheers
* Automatic Wristwatches From Switzerland by Heinz Hampel
Perhaps a pre-series/prototype thing?
Lemania made their cal 30xx family in "budget versions" with cheaper balance, and without the Breguet overcoil. I was not aware of any such versions of the cal 36xx.
As the base movement is cal 30xx, it would be no problem for Lemania to make a cheaper cal 3600
I'm on the hunt for a 5100/1045 day wheel (1516) and date ring (1580), both in black.
