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Dan S
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So I guess it would in that case be OK for us to open discuss it. We are all pussyfooting around a little because no one wants to transgress or act in an ungentlemanly fashion but if we agree it is Ok to talk about price, when its seem particularly egregious, maybe we should do so?

I think it's reasonable to discuss issues related to watches for sale, e.g. originality, correctness of description. Personally I'd be ok with a rule that allows discussing price in a separate thread, not in the sales forum. But I believe that threads focusing on the price of a watch have sometimes been accused of "price-bashing" and have been removed in the past IIRC.
 
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Ah Hah! So you do know which one I'm talkin about 😁

we just don’t know anything about the watch, neither the Seller 😁
 
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Dan S Dan S
I think it's reasonable to discuss issues related to watches for sale, e.g. originality, correctness of description. But I believe that threads focusing on the price of a watch in the sales forum have sometimes been accused of "price-bashing" and have been removed in the past IIRC. The policy seems a bit ambiguous.

As a former member used to say, anyone can ask what they want for a watch.
We can laugh and snigger but anyone is entitled to ask $10k for a $200 watch.
He may have no chance in hell of selling it at $10k but he can ask It. Then he would talk about putting his orange tuna on the FS thread for $20k with a picture of the 5 fish he caught that would make the watch worth $20k.
I do miss Dennis in conversations sometimes 😉
 
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As previously mentioned, this discussion is about private sales. Dealers have to earn to feed their families so that's a different story. However, aside from greed I think it's important to address the different circumstances and various styles some private watch enthusiasts have when it comes to buying, and then eventually selling off what they either no longer wear or redundant pieces in their collection.
Not to blow my own horn, but I have perfected my style of meeting up and snagging watches, so therefore I can sell some off cheap. Rather than drone on about it I will simply post a quick snapshot of me in action...

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Ok I’ve no idea which sales post you’re all talking about. I’m going for a look....
 
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Davidt Davidt
Ok I’ve no idea which sales post you’re all talking about. I’m going for a look....
You won't have to look far. 😉
 
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I am curious now - is it in the private sales, or watches for sale forum?
 
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I think there are a few sellers who are passively selling and not actively. They post pieces in their collection with a daydream price and if someone bites- then they are "willing" to let it go for that. But they don't actually want to sell at market value- they would rather keep it.
If you post a watch for sale, price it to move- don't attach sentimental value or try to make someone else pay for your mistakes (if it's worth $1k and you paid $700 for a service, it's still worth $1k not $1.7k). We all want to buy low and sell high- it's the ideal, but there comes a point when it's just unrealistic expectations and you should just post it on eBay and not clutter up a collectors forum.
 
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Davidt Davidt
Ok I’ve no idea which sales post you’re all talking about. I’m going for a look....
Me neither.
 
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Personally I like the suggestion I’ve seen on a few other threads; no bump without a price reduction. Probably won’t happen but I like the idea. Priced right, they sell quickly and don’t need bumps, overpriced falls to the bottom.
 
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I’m glad that this thread has come up.

I’ve noticed that from time to time a new poster has asked for advice about a particular type of watch and been advised to visit the Private Sales Forum for a quality vintage watch at a competitive price.

They do exist, and I’ve bought a few there, but IMHO sometimes the newbie is far better off combing eBay and other auction sites for a reasonable watch at a good price.
 
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There are some peculiar listings at the moment, true.

A "large timepiece" looking good on even large wrists - a massive 34mm case.

Need some help here - if 34mm is massive, what would be the right adjective to describe the 36mm variant of this watch - humongous? 😁

All joking aside: Even though I wouldn’t use them, I feel like phrases such as “wears larger” don’t really hurt anybody, as long as the actual size is disclosed.

Prices and descriptions of conditions (like “NOS”) are something else, imo. I’d love to see some offers pointed out that go way over the top, if it happens in a respectful manner.
 
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Personally I like the suggestion I’ve seen on a few other threads; no bump without a price reduction. Probably won’t happen but I like the idea. Priced right, they sell quickly and don’t need bumps, overpriced falls to the bottom.
And I get it, some watches I own- I have no clue how I would price them. They aren't necessarily rare or desirable brands, but may be unique and interesting. So sometimes you throw a price out there based on similar comps. Val 7733 chrono with house brand- what are others akin to it going for- it's not a Wittenaur or Bulova or Zodiac so don't price it like one. We can make educated guesses (within reason), and if it doesn't sell fairly quickly- you were off the mark- no shame in it, but adjust accordingly.
 
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🍿What an enjoyable thread to read this morning.

I too have noticed some watches for sale that I thought the prices were too high, but, no one is forcing me to wire my money to the seller.
Yes, I'd like to think that there are ALWAYS better deals to be found among the friendly confines of the Omega Forum, but that is not realistic.
I believe that a truly serious seller will offer the watch at a price that it will sell quickly.

Also, on another note... why do sellers quote the prices for vintage Speedmasters from Speedmaster 101... is that THE price guide? The prices seem a little steep in my opinion, but, then again...
 
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Regarding whether a watch posted in the FS section should be discussed, the OF offers a place to sell a watch with no commission or fees of any kind to either the buyer or seller. It seems reasonable to allow members to comment on watches FS in exchange for that privilege, with the restriction about price bashing as mentioned previously.

My thoughts about the FS sections is that the primary purpose is to exchange watches between collectors. There are plenty of other ways to sell watches. If you are selling a watch here you should understand the audience.

Therefore, it should be accepted that any posting will be scrutinized by the forum. The basic standards of behavior between collectors still stands (no trolling and no bashing for profit.) There is probably a greater latitude for questioning a sale when the watch is clearly not something a collector or enthusiast would want but the sale seems only to be for profit.

Is this reasonable?
 
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Marsimaxam Marsimaxam
Also, on another note... why do sellers quote the prices for vintage Speedmasters from Speedmaster 101... is that THE price guide? The prices seem a little steep in my opinion, but, then again...
Personally, I think prices on Speedmasters in general are insane. Speedmasters are iconic, but tens of thousands of dollars? Not for me.
 
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