Language and accent

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On the bus home today I knew that the driver was from the west midlands of England but hadn't identified his accent better than that. But today as I got off there was one word that pinned it down: he was from the Black Country, as am I.

So I started thinking about accents. At school in the 1960s I learned French and German, got to practice both a little on vacations then later worked for a few months in Montreal. Montreal had people from all over the world, was very cosmopolitan and the standard language was English, but outside the city in Quebec Province speaking French was very useful. Not long after that I moved to Cambridge in England and one of the guys in our shared house had a French girlfriend, from Orleans. She told me I spoke French with an agricultural accent. No longer an English schoolboy but now a French peasant. Yeesss!

Now for German. Very useful on business trips to Germany but even better in Hungary where older people also spoke German instead of the Russian that the younger ones had had to learn. No-one mentioned my accent, nor did they in Germany. The only comments I ever had were from Austrians 😜

I didn't speak German in The Netherlands although Dutch sounded enough like it that I could understand quite a lot. Then at my regular hotel in Amsterdam the owner who had good English and his daughter who was excellent were away on a motorcycle camping trip, so the owner's father was in charge. He was definitely of the generation who had experienced wartime occupation and I was such a regular guest there (weekly over one winter) that he would have been briefed that I am English. So at breakfast he asked how would I like my obligatory egg cooked -- in Dutch. I replied in French. Nope he didn't speak French. He tries again in German so of course I can now reply in German 👍

My English accent now? Mostly East Anglian fens, but I'm told the Black Country comes back when I'm under stress.
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I don't have a typical "Jersey Shore" accent ... not that I can tell. I tried to develop the "neutral tech support" voice as I do phone support. Though, when I get mad, I start talking like Joe Pesci.
 
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I don't have a typical "Jersey Shore" accent ... not that I can tell. I tried to develop the "neutral tech support" voice as I do phone support. Though, when I get mad, I start talking like Joe Pesci.
I lived on the Jersey Shore for three years doing tech sales and support. I could understand New Yorkers but the Philly accent got me every time. That and their sticking to phone exchange three-letter names when I was expecting to hear just numbers.
 
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I lived on the Jersey Shore for three years doing tech sales and support. I could understand New Yorkers but the Philly accent got me every time. That and their sticking to phone exchange three-letter names when I was expecting to hear just numbers.
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Any Cheeseheads down at the "Bubbla"? (or is that only Milwaukee-ians?)
Definitely a 'Scony thing.
 
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I do break into my Texas drawl when I’m explaining things to students - I’ve been told they appreciate it because a lot of the other professors talk so fast they can’t follow them.

And I also will throw in a y’all or y’all’ve without thinking all the time. I’ve had had more than one student ask me why I’m talking about olives when I used y’all’ve without thinking. 😀
 
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Born in NW Pennsylvania... and adding "R" to words that have no business having them in them is a thing (and yes, I avoided it).

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Yeah, that sort of thing. We never got a customer in Philly, but we were selling to the oil and power generation industries and most cities had pure numeric phone numbers. In my time in that job the only customer we got ever was in Connecticut. But a biggie. Anyone know Combustion Engineering?
 
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More strange Pennsylvania verbage -

Picksburgh (Pittsburgh)
Go with? (can I come too?)
What are yous up to? (could be said to a group or an individual)
Tie the dog loose (let the dog off its leash)
 
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Anyone know Combustion Engineering?

I'm vegan, and pretty much exist on legumes, so yes. Yes I do.
 
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I shared a cubical with a bloke from the Midlands for a year. That is an accent.

What ever a San Francisco California accent is, with a midwestern twist, I have it. On the other hand I did the ren faire and am currently doing the Dickens Christmas fair. So we do some sort of BFA (Basic Fair accent or RSP) which is basically a welsh accent used by the BBC. I personally like to mix up accents as I have a busker organ, so use mostly German with some french. When practicing last weekend, I kept slipping into Scottish accent. Guess I have been watching too much Outlander.

For fun with stage accents, check out something streaming on HBO called 'Avenue 5' with Hugh Laurie and Josh Gadd. Mostly a lot of screaming and shouting by the other actors. Sort of a send-up of the whole Elon Musk space tourism thing.

For some reason I do not seem to have any photographs of a smiths watch or I would post one. I do notice that watches tend to betray their country of origin. Best I can do is an advert from 1952
 
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More strange Pennsylvania verbage -

Picksburgh (Pittsburgh)
Go with? (can I come too?)
What are yous up to? (could be said to a group or an individual)
Tie the dog loose (let the dog off its leash)

I know a guy out there that says "yinz" for that.
 
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I know a guy out there that says "yinz" for that.

Yep, that's a thing too.

Oddly, and with absolutely no shit, I have relatives from PA with the last name Zintz and it's not uncommon to hear phrases like "What have yinz Zintz been up to?"

I visit infrequently for obvious reasons.
 
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More strange Pennsylvania verbage -

Picksburgh (Pittsburgh)
Go with? (can I come too?)
What are yous up to? (could be said to a group or an individual)
Tie the dog loose (let the dog off its leash)

That last one is great!

I think lots of places have their own accents and phrases that puzzle others. When I spent a lot of time in Ohio, I heard an odd phrasing...when something to was determined to be broken, they would say it "needs fixed", rather than "needs to be fixed." So a contraction I guess to save time? Or "needs repaired", and I even had a waitress tell me that the table I was after "needs wiped" before I could sit at it. Like nails on a chalk board - cringed every time I heard it...

One I'm hearing from the US lately is that something happens "on accident"...rather than "by accident"...can't quite figure how that one happened.

Now excuse me as I have to get a serviette, as I have spilled some poutine on the chesterfield...

Oh, one last one...when I was a kid going to visit family in "da Bronx" back in the 70's, we all got a kick out of one relative to yelled to his wife as we were getting ready to go somewhere as a group "Hey Theresa, I got doit on my shoit!" Not sure if it comes through in the way I've spelled it, but us kids laughed about that for years after...
 
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My mother’s family is from Philadelphia and my father grew up in Baltimore. We were talking about how the baseball player Tyler Flowers might get traded to the Phillies and end up as Tyler Floors or the Orioles and be known as Tyler Flares.
 
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That last one is great!

One I'm hearing from the US lately is that something happens "on accident"...rather than "by accident"...can't quite figure how that one happened.

Yep, that one is nationwide and absolutely drives me batshit crazy. Our daughter is forbidden, under penalty of The Dad Voice, from saying it.
Worse, I thought it was exclusively a Gen Z thing until I heard my 43 year old friend say it two nights ago while we were playing table tennis. I railed him over it. He wouldn't budge on it being incorrect. Still my friend but he's an idiot.

Another for me- "I need advise" or "Advise needed" etc...
Advice bro, advice.

I understand that language & phrases evolve but stuff like those two above, that isn't evolution.
 
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Born in NW Pennsylvania... and adding "R" to words that have no business having them in them is a thing (and yes, I avoided it).

Warshington, DC
Clothes are in the warshing machine.
My father in law from the St. Louis area does this. It’s the worst lol. My entire large extended family is from New England so they omit the Rs. There was a comic who did a funny bit about how the one group stole the Rs from the other.

Paaaak the caaaaa = Park the car. Also, dead giveaway for a New Englander is if they use the word “wicked”. Bonus points if it’s in conjunction with pissah.

I feel like the stereotypical “Jersey” accent is really a NYC Brooklyn accent. Then we kind of blended that with Philly and created our own jawn.

My wife’s accent got really bad lately. I swear it didn’t used to be like that. Cawfee. Dawg. Auwto. And of course, wooter. I speak completely 100% normal of course.

Clearly, none of us are as sophisticated and well traveled as the OP lol.