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"Japan Racing" on ebay, be careful

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Oh hey friends. I see we all landed on this watch and wondered what might be going on. I decided to take a flyer with PayPal protection. Looks like it might have worked out, now that I read the thread. BUT you’ll be happy (or sad) to know the seller cancelled the sale on this one. A shame, tbh.
 
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kidkimura kidkimura
Oh hey friends. I see we all landed on this watch and wondered what might be going on. I decided to take a flyer with PayPal protection. Looks like it might have worked out, now that I read the thread. BUT you’ll be happy (or sad) to know the seller cancelled the sale on this one. A shame, tbh.
Ugh, that stinks. Did they give a reason? Hopefully nobody reading this thread reached out to the seller offering more...😒
 
sgrossma
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Wow, that stinks. Well...I promise it wasn't me! I've fallen into a deep depression ever since I missed this one due to my [incorrect] knowledge.

Be sure to give them negative feedback...
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kidkimura kidkimura
Oh hey friends. I see we all landed on this watch and wondered what might be going on. I decided to take a flyer with PayPal protection. Looks like it might have worked out, now that I read the thread. BUT you’ll be happy (or sad) to know the seller cancelled the sale on this one. A shame, tbh.

Such a scummy practice. I'm not sure what's worse, the buyer who sends offers after the auction has ended or the seller who cancels the sale. Seems to be standard practice when it comes to vintage watches though...

I have a lot of respect for sellers who honor their original deal, regardless of any higher offers they receive afterwards.
 
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Wow, that stinks. Well...I promise it wasn't me! I've fallen into a deep depression ever since I missed this one due to my [incorrect] knowledge.

Be sure to give them negative feedback...

no worries! Seems to be a standard practice nowadays, so I’m not sweating it.

I think if they cancel the sale for “damaged or out of stock” you don’t get a chance to give feedback. 🤮
 
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I think if they cancel the sale for “damaged or out of stock” you don’t get a chance to give feedback. 🤮
Really? That's absurd. So anytime a dealer gets an auction result they don't like they can just say "Whoops, it's actually out of stock, better luck next time!"?
 
sgrossma
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Out of curiosity - did you pay in full first? And then you were refunded and the transaction cancelled? Or it was cancelled prior?
 
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Wasn’t me ... had the same bs happening to me a few times . Stinks
 
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Be sure to give them negative feedback...

so you publicly dump on the guys watch declaring it questionable, he decides to do whatever he wants with the watch as it's his, it turns out to be legit, and now you want to stick it to him again? it's not his fault. you could have bought it back when you first seen it but didn't know what you were looking at.
 
sgrossma
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Lol, what??!
Among collectors, it’s fairly common knowledge that only 7712 or 7713 is correct for Japan Racing. 7708 is a bit odd/rare for the reference and I was merely putting out a public advisory to proceed with caution as this was lesser known and I don’t have access to omega intranet for verification as other do.
Not to mention it was priced nearly $5000 below it’s market value.
While I was sad that I didn’t buy it initially, I was also happy for whoever did.
And finally, it turns out at least some of my reservations about the seller were right as he cancelled a genuine sale when he found out it was worth more, which is a bit dishonest, but mistakes do happen. As always, a 2 minute google search could have informed the seller about the watches value and he has enough feedback to demonstrate he knows how.
So I believe your comment is uncalled for.
Maybe next time I won’t try to help out the community.
 
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it was priced nearly $5000 below it’s market value.
sgrossma sgrossma
he cancelled a genuine sale when he found out it was worth more, which is a bit dishonest,

you sure it was "a bit dishonest"? if you were confident it was genuine when you first spotted it would you have informed him of it's value, or kept your mouth shut and paid for it? the sword cuts both ways and while I admit i would have kept my mouth shut and paid for it, I can't fault the seller for cancelling the offering once he was tipped off by yours and other inquiries that he had something special. that's life.
 
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Yes, I’m completely sure that cancelling a sale after payment is made is a bit dishonest.

I don’t believe finding something below market is dishonest. He has an ask, others have an offer, and a deal is made. Nobody was tricked or misinformed. His feedback alone demonstrates he is a knowledgable seller, capable of researching the reference and determining a value.

If I was confident I would have bought it, but I genuinely believed something was off so I was trying to help out. I feel more duty to call out something as being not genuine than I do to correct someone’s below market pricing, as this is more of subjective matter anyway.
 
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Watch Out - Seller is claiming this is an original Japan Racing. It has the correct country code & box, but the serial appears to be 77087039, which is earlier than any known Japan Racing. I've only seen 7713 and a few 7712.

I have also seen 7711 and confirmed it as a Japan.
 
janice&fred
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I feel more duty to call out something as being not genuine

except for when you're wrong and missed out. 😁
 
sgrossma
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except for when you're wrong and missed out. 😁
You’re literally not making sense. I both saw it and called it out hours before a sale was made. If I cared enough to buy it I would have.

You go ahead and continue being a troll, I won’t comment further.
All the best,
Scott
 
janice&fred
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His feedback alone demonstrates he is a knowledgable seller, capable of researching the reference and determining a value.

and the same could be said about your post count on an omega discussion forum. the seller made a mistake on value, and you made a mistake on authenticity. however in this situation it appears you "drew first blood" by spreading suspicion on a legit watch. you didn't get the home-run deal and neither did the member that tried. you can't win them all. that's life. 😁
 
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Well that is very interesting. Same seller and turns out that they are a watch dealer... [edit] I guess we knew that, nevermind.
 
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