IWC Dial Check (Originality)

Screwbacks · Dec 9, 2016

I had a vintage iwc cal893 once before and was really confused between a manualwind and auto cal 89/893 iwc texts in the dial particularly the L and W. look how horny the W is. I let go of my iwc and this is what is left of my iwc. up to now, the issue doesnt settle in my mind.

timeismoney · Dec 9, 2016

Giff2577
Great looking IWC! The hands have slots for lume but the dial has no lume. Does that suggest a redial or replaced hands? I also am gathering info on these dials.

Interesting point. I don't know if that is the general rule for IWC.

Jonatan · Dec 10, 2016

Not an automatic but maybe the script can still help. I can try to get a closer shot if need be.

cchen · Dec 10, 2016

U ulackfocus
That reference 1832 (right side 2nd down) is an original dial?

Looks odd to me but that's what someone posted on IWC forums as a reference

Tony C. · Dec 10, 2016

Ima say it again: IWC outsourced to different dial manufacturers during the early/mid-20th century, and the signatures are not perfectly consistent. Sometimes the desire to detect redials can lead to missing the forest for the trees.

ulackfocus · Dec 10, 2016

Tony C.
Ima say it again: IWC outsourced to different dial manufacturers during the early/mid-20th century, and the signatures are not perfectly consistent. Sometimes the desire to detect redials can lead to missing the forest for the trees.

What? There are original IWC dials in the woods? *gets hiking boots on*

Tony C. · Dec 10, 2016

Reminds me of the old feminist twist: If a man says something while alone in the woods, is he still wrong?

timeismoney · Dec 10, 2016

Tony C.
Ima say it again: IWC outsourced to different dial manufacturers during the early/mid-20th century, and the signatures are not perfectly consistent. Sometimes the desire to detect redials can lead to missing the forest for the trees.

I totally agree @Tony C. , I am no expert on IWC, not by any means, but I have seen enough inconsistencies while researching on my own piece that my conclusion is to just enjoy it.

al128 · Dec 18, 2016

cchen
Found this on the IWC forums. Seems a lot of focus is on the IWC script and how Schaffhausen is aligned. Helping me get a picture of what to look for....

If anything the OPs dial looks better than most of those stacked here... Or is that a collection of redials?

al128 · Dec 18, 2016

U ulackfocus
@MPWATCH recently posted an excellent example of what I mean by the ink being rounded. You can see the depth it has due to the reflections on the sides:

Dennis, that gel-ink might be a tell tale sign of higher-end dials after when? (Insert year)...

I don't see 1940ies and 50ies watches with that type of ink. Also I don't see mid-tier watches with that type of ink until the 80-90ies. Just look at the run of the mill omegas from that period.

If a really old watch came with that type of ink it will make me think redial (just like the fake Hitler's diaries bound in material that was not available in the 40ies if anybody still remembers).

Cheers Al

IWC Dial Check (Originality)

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