Is vintage watch fandom a well kept secret?

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I like the idea that vintage watches are still a bit "under ground", it has meant that I've been able to pick up enough of what I like to amass a nice collection without going broke in the attempt. Once it goes too "mainstream", vintage watches will price themselves out of reach of many who would enjoy them.

Vintage motorcycles are a good example:
I remember buying a nice clean original & presentable '62 BMW for $1400 and, three years later a '53 Triumph with only 3900 original miles on it for the same amount. I was able to pile a bunch of mileage on these and other machines while attending every vintage bike meet within reasonable riding distance. Now these machines are too valuable in the eyes of many to be used in anger... the BMW was needlessly "restored" and disappeared into a static collection and the Triumph was last seen in a museum, also parked.

Once old things in limited supply become popular, they become expensive. Once they become expensive, they become to valuable to use.

Then they all disappear from view and nobody really enjoys them.
 
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I wish it were a well-kept secret馃檨
 
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I wish it were a well-kept secret馃檨
Me too!馃檨 (As he looks at the picture of the A386 he'll never own.馃槈)
 
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As a pastor I make hospital visits weekly. Subs are on almost every wrist of docs. I usually have Speedmaster on and they rarely notice. But they are busy.
 
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I went to the doctors here in Malawi because I was infested with mango fly maggots, I pulled out nearly 100 in the end, the doctor, who was from Holland was wearing a 1960s seamaster. I started asking about it but she said she didn't know anything about it, her husband had bought it as a gift for her. I have seen a few vintage watches in the wild but generally it is quite hard to spot them unless in close proximity to the wearer.
 
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You are going to the wrong meets.


that meeting looks like as attended by Haywood or Jed or Mike Wood, maybe all three..... Impressive. the only problem is the center second of the Flightmaster. was never issued with that hand. but the hand itself is extremly rare..... kind regards./ achim
 
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I live in north florida where wealth goes to run and hide when it gets old, and see nice watches all the time.. I cook at a exclusive private golf club and see a crazy mix, good old boy's from successfull startup's with sub's and daytonas etc. We have ex mob guys retired but still flamboyant with gold presidentials, there "new" sons with the same just louder. To nerdy guys with new panerai's or one guy with a 90's Manhattan Connie that thinks he's the man.. Lol

But the most meaningful to me is my doctor, he has a premoon speedy that was his fathers, and his grandfather's.. It has been completely redone by a local watchmaker like omega would do, New dial, polished to he'll etc. But, it runs great, he doesn't know the difference, and he can wash his hands! Besides he could afford a patek if he wanted one, that's not the point, and I don't have the heart to tell him how he ruined it.
But he loved seeing my '56 Connie pie pan arrowhead, and eversince we have had a special bond. So watches still mean something to some, you just gotta be patient.

Oh yea.. And also, we have a couple billionares in our club too, guess what? Cheap watches..lol
 
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I live in north florida where wealth goes to run and hide when it gets old, and see nice watches all the time.. I cook at a exclusive private golf club and see a crazy mix, good old boy's from successfull startup's with sub's and daytonas etc. We have ex mob guys retired but still flamboyant with gold presidentials, there "new" sons with the same just louder. To nerdy guys with new panerai's or one guy with a 90's Manhattan Connie that thinks he's the man.. Lol

But the most meaningful to me is my doctor, he has a premoon speedy that was his fathers, and his grandfather's.. It has been completely redone by a local watchmaker like omega would do, New dial, polished to he'll etc. But, it runs great, he doesn't know the difference, and he can wash his hands! Besides he could afford a patek if he wanted one, that's not the point, and I don't have the heart to tell him how he ruined it.
But he loved seeing my '56 Connie pie pan arrowhead, and eversince we have had a special bond. So watches still mean something to some, you just gotta be patient.

Oh yea.. And also, we have a couple billionares in our club too, guess what? Cheap watches..lol

According to your standards, he's ruined it. From what you have written, according to his, he's completely happy having a good looking, functional, waterproof(ish) watch. What would be gained from telling him otherwise?

Horses for courses 馃槈
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According to your standards, he's ruined it. From what you have written, according to his, he's completely happy having a good looking, functional, waterproof(ish) watch. What would be gained from telling him otherwise?

Horses for courses 馃槈
Yes, plus he has no idea what it would have been worth of he would of at least kept those old parts, it's really sad this isn't common knowledge, I wonder how many other older gentlemen out there have amazing watches that might be "ruined" by some over zealous watchmaker.
 
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I agree. From a purely financial aspect, he'd probably have been better keeping the watch original (unless it was a complete basket case) or at least hanging onto the original bits that were replaced.

However, to realise that theoretical value he'd have to sell the watch. He prefers to wear it and use it for the purpose it was designed for. Therefore I'd suggest the value he gets is in the pleasure of use, not in unrealised financial value.
 
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Whilst I'm not in an industry where I can afford a reasonably expensive vintage watch without saving, I still appreciate what ones I have, and do wish sometimes 'mishaps' didn't happen.

My Longines 10.68z "calatrava-style" took a dent on the lug the very first day I went to work with it after service. Queue feeling blue for a good half of the day, before thinking "Well, I'll just be taking care of it for the future generation..." It might not be a Patek, but it's something to cherish.



For work it's now pretty much a beater quartz or two, and then the weekends and off days are a rotation of the vintage pieces. My friends feelings are a mix of curiosity and appreciation; they generally like the style and how they seem to fit wrists wonderfully well.

About the only places I encounter vintage on other people's wrists would be the collectors markets and fairs, where I've seen anything from vintage Subs and GMT-Masters, a ProPlof, SM300s and a Pre-Moon...also a Glycine Airman. Of course, the dealers will have something interesting on their wrist too...
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What would be gained from telling him otherwise?

Telling him that the parts that Omega removed and returned are worth a fair bit of money, and if he still has them not to throw them out, would certainly be a gain...

I'm not arguing that if he likes the watch as it is, he should enjoy it. I'm not suggesting that anyone impose their testes on him - just that knowledge is a good thing.
 
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I'm not suggesting that anyone impose their testes on him - just that knowledge is a good thing.

Thank goodness you're drawing the line at that 馃槻 馃榿
 
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Thank goodness you're drawing the line at that 馃槻 馃榿

Only trying to pre-empt the accusation that was surely coming mate. 馃榾
 
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so I keep them in highly a controlled environment (think: wine climate cabin).

@Willem023 I hope you dont keep your watches in your wine-climate-cabin : wine needs to be stored cool (16C), and humid (65~75% humidity) ...humidity is required to keep the corks moist so that they don't dry out thus letting air in and turning your lovely wine into vinegar via oxidisation...otherwise, if 65%~75% humidity is 'dry' compared to the 'swamp' of the NL, then I guess you are doing well 馃榾 Just saying...
 
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He is surely the reason way "tastes" autocorrects to "testes" here...
 
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My Longines 10.68z "calatrava-style" took a dent on the lug the very first day I went to work with it after service. Queue feeling blue for a good half of the day, before thinking "Well, I'll just be taking care of it for the future generation..." It might not be a Patek, but it's something to cherish.
Don鈥檛 downplay that watch, it鈥檚 beautiful, other than monetary value it has little to envy to its contemporaries.
 
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was wearing a 1960s seamaster
Most of the guys and girls I meet over here wear or nothing, or some R%^&x-thing with that glob.
Most of the time nothing though...馃槜

You might recognise the feel

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