Is this vintage Omega real? 30T2/1939

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Was interested in this and found it online but can't find any other information.

Appreciate the help!



 
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Do you think that Omega would manufacture a watch dial with the “3” and “9” turned sideways?
 
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Do you think that Omega would manufacture a watch dial with the “3” and “9” turned sideways?

While I agree that the dial is refinished, are you certain that Omega never employed that design?
 
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If you’re referring to the case, no I’m not certain of that. I think that it’s very unlikely that Omega would produce a dial design with the 3 and 9 turned sideways and the 6 largely obscured by the subdial. There are other issues as well. As you note, it’s an obvious redial, but that doesn’t mean that it’s not an authentic Omega case.
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Just related to the discussion about the orientation of numerals in general. Ref 2179 dials often have this sort of radial orientation.
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Interesting, Dan. Thanks for posting that, but would you agree with Tony’s and my assessment that the OP’s watch is a redial? Also, how do you read the case reference number on the inside of the case back - 2151? 2181? Hard for me to see it clearly in the photo.
 
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Well the dial is obviously super-clean, which always deserves close attention. I'd guess it is probably a redial, but I haven't inspected it very closely.

Appears to be a ref 2181 with a cal 30T2. This is a jumbo ref.

Edit: I see that Tony beat me to it.
 
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Well, I stand corrected on the orientation of the 3 and 9, but still a redial in my opinion. Authentic case though. Interesting handset. What are your thoughts about that?
 
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but still a redial unfortunately

I agree. Far too clean, especially relative to the movement.
 
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the 6 largely obscured by the subdial

These "truncated 6" are definitely not uncommon on early Omega watches
 
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These "truncated 6" are definitely not uncommon on early Omega watches
Yep, clearly a mistake on my part and I appreciate the info.
 
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Guys I am not so sure about a possible re-dial.

the vertical sanding of the main part is perfectly fine
the rim of the sunken subdial is perfectly crisp unlike seen on redialed examples
the numerals on the subdial are perfectly fine
the logo looks correct for the era
Omega script also with fine serifs
the whole print of numerals and minute track looks fine

However I must admit that the condition/cleanlinesse is puzzling, its not commensurate with the condition of the movement as already stated above.
Could it be a transplanted (maybe old stock) dial? IMHO not impossible
 
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I think it's refinished, but I like it. Good job. Clean and hands a good match to the design

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Think it is an unbelievably well preserved dial, may be kept in a paraffin wrap for 70 years. And then installed in what must be a very expensive specimen. Or the work of a superb dial refinisher.
 
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Think it is an unbelievably well preserved dial, may be kept in a paraffin wrap for 70 years. And then installed in what must be a very expensive specimen. Or the work of a superb dial refinisher.
I just can’t believe that this is the original dial. If it is, it’s one of this year’s best finds. I think that it’s more likely a redial, but a damn good one.
 
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I just can’t believe that this is the original dial. If it is, it’s one of this year’s best finds. I think that it’s more likely a redial, but a damn good one

I believe that Franco and Erich are suggesting that it is a genuine dial, but that was affixed much later.