Forums Latest Members

Is this Universal Geneve Medico-Compax authentic? First watch, please help.

  1. nguess19 Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    11
    Likes
    2
    Howdy,

    I have included the link to a UG Medico-Compax I am interested in acquiring. This will be my first watch! While the first watch is exciting, I do not want to be "burned" with getting a fake.

    I attached some photos, but more can be found at the link below.

    https://www.chrono24.com/universalgenve/medico-compax--id17091601.htm

    Things I notice are:
    1) No Swiss stamp on movement
    2) Second hand looks to have been replaced
    3) crown looks to have been replaced
    4) UG stamp is very faded, but does appear to be authentic.

    I can tell this watch has had the dial restored, but it appears to be professionally done. I personally prefer restored dials, etc as I think it makes the watch more wearable. I am a professional and people would be turned off if I had a watch that looked like it had been left outside a few days.

    This watch was previously sold on WatchestoBuy and they stated it appeared to be well done and the pictures show no large irregularities. I am hoping to make an offer in the next 24 hours, if everything checks out.

    I greatly appreciate any help

    -NWG
     
    17091601-ksijcj79tmr230m0743eyyl4-Zoom.jpg 17091601-qxouxvtrziks0wmtqg7fnt5l-Zoom.jpg
  2. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    12,536
    Likes
    49,782
    No lume on the dial, late 40’s case, relumed hands, i don't know where that chrono hand came from, so I’m calling BS. These Medicos are problematic. I’ll stop there. Took about a minute.
     
    oinkitt and aap like this.
  3. Dan S Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    18,799
    Likes
    43,248
    OK professional, buy the watch. It's not "fake". :rolleyes:

    But do us a favor and don't post any more photos here. Why would you even mention the crown when the dial looks like that?
     
    Edited Jan 15, 2021
    oinkitt and aap like this.
  4. nguess19 Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    11
    Likes
    2
    BS as in the watch is not an authentic UG?
    Or is that difficult to tell in photos?
     
  5. nguess19 Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    11
    Likes
    2
    Haha. So does this look like a fake to you and its super obvious? If so, what gives it a way to you?
     
  6. nguess19 Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    11
    Likes
    2
    Are there any websites that you all trust for authentic UG timepieces?
     
  7. Dan S Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    18,799
    Likes
    43,248
    I said it's not fake. Buy it if you like it.
     
  8. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    12,536
    Likes
    49,782
    Did you read my comments? I trust the UG forum and a couple of watch brokers.
     
    aap likes this.
  9. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    12,536
    Likes
    49,782
    Look ... As @ Dan S says, “If you like it buy it.” However my view is laying out thousands for a redial is a waste of cash.
     
  10. nguess19 Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    11
    Likes
    2
    You had fake in parenthesis so I read it as some sarcasm. For my future knowledge, what did you mean by "mentioning the crown when the dial looks like that"?
     
  11. nguess19 Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    11
    Likes
    2
    Apologies, I meant to post that to Dan. Thank you for the very clear and concise summary of what you found as questionable.
     
  12. nguess19 Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    11
    Likes
    2
    Is it called a redial if a whole new, non-UG (ie fake) dial is replaced, as well as, if a later version of an actual UG is swapped? I hear the term redial a lot and I just thought it meant that the dial is in fact a UG dial, but maybe twenty years newer and in better condition. Again, I am a newby and trying to learn so I can be better informed and not sound stupid on future forums
     
    Kay995 likes this.
  13. Dan S Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    18,799
    Likes
    43,248
  14. nguess19 Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    11
    Likes
    2
  15. Dan S Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    18,799
    Likes
    43,248
    The old dial was completely repainted.
     
  16. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    12,536
    Likes
    49,782
  17. nguess19 Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    11
    Likes
    2
    Awesome. Thanks for all of your help Larry. Out of curiosity, why do some photos show a ton of little dots and in other pictures it looks near flawless?
     
  18. Dan S Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    18,799
    Likes
    43,248
    I'm personally not a fan of plated cases, but the watch looks honest.
     
  19. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    12,536
    Likes
    49,782
    Its the light angle. Nice even patina. No question of authenticity.
     
  20. Dan S Jan 15, 2021

    Posts
    18,799
    Likes
    43,248
    Probably degradation to the lacquer that is more apparent from certain angles. There are spots on the dial. The chrome plating is also degrading on the case. Make sure you look at all the photos.