Is this right decision for husbands 60th, 1961 Seamaster?

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Thank you, that’s a truly lovely watch, on the brown leather nato strap which comes in 18mm lugs (I almost sound knowledgeable but trust me it’s only from doing the research!) I don’t think my husband would ever look at me again! Again the seamaster is perfect, he was 30+ years in the Royal Navy and we live by the sea now.....you see why I want to pursue the gift & not give up (but yes taken all the good advice to remove the ‘61 criteria!)
Here are some options of similar stainless steel seamasters which were mass produced. They should'nt be hard to find. I already send you one earlier in the thread. That's the 166.010 (the chronometer is the 168.024). 35mm. Fantastic watch.
 
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@VickyG since I suggested you ask a number of questions and reminded you you have every right to cancel a sale, I apologize if I caused in part this deal to collapse.

However I would have done the same to protect myself if I had forked over that kind of money— and I do think a seller should have something to show for that kind for money.
My thought about it would be, “it was not meant to happen” -you have learned a lot already through this, and are now much better equipped for the next steps.

Goodness me absolutely no apology needed, no one has a part to play in why the deal collapsed apart from the dealer himself.Yes foolishly I shouldn’t have entered into this without asking more questions but when I did it was to protect my hard earned cash & ensure the watch was what it said it was.
 
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If you want to take a slight step up to a Constellation, this one looks promising.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-OMEGA-CONSTELLATION-CHRONOMETER-Calendar-561-GOLD-ON-STEEL-Excellent-24J-/184696348406_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

The seller seems to be a brick and mortar store and is welcoming questions.

It will need a trip to a watchmaker to replace the gasket and a service, but that is expected with a 60 year old watch.

Good luck with your search.
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If you want to take a slight step up to a Constellation, this one looks promising.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-OMEGA-CONSTELLATION-CHRONOMETER-Calendar-561-GOLD-ON-STEEL-Excellent-24J-/184696348406_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

The seller seems to be a brick and mortar store and is welcoming questions.

It will need a trip to a watchmaker to replace the gasket and a service, but that is expected with a 60 year old watch.

Good luck with your search.
gatorcpa
Thank you, I am keeping an eye out on all the ones suggested (in silver not gold), the USA to UK adds import tax but again weighing up that against the watch is still worth considering
 
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Vicky,
Just to re-iterate the comments of JwR, everybody here is with you. Do suggest a purchase of the Private Watch Sales page on here. That is where I first started. Suggest you stick to UK, the first purchase is stress enough without all the import tax / VAT unknowns (unless you are used to that)
 
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You're seeing some lovely watches here that are manual wind, meaning that they will need to be wound every day. If it says "automatic" on the dial, then it will charge itself while being worn and won't need the daily winding.

If you think your husband would be happy to wind it every day, then a manual wind is normally cheaper and is definitely cheaper to service. Most of us don't mind this but it depends on the person.

With manual wind and your budget plus wanting it on a NATO strap, you have a large selection. Something a bit different that I have is this Chronostop (145.007) which I just put on as I've finished work for the day. It's somewhat larger than the others but is a sixties watch.


The choice of sixties Omegas is huge and definitely something for everyone.

By the way, if your husband was in the forces, you can often find a NATO that suits his unit (colours and so on).

Good luck, Chris
 
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You're seeing some lovely watches here that are manual wind, meaning that they will need to be wound every day. If it says "automatic" on the dial, then it will charge itself while being worn and won't need the daily winding.

If you think your husband would be happy to wind it every day, then a manual wind is normally cheaper and is definitely cheaper to service. Most of us don't mind this but it depends on the person.

With manual wind and your budget plus wanting it on a NATO strap, you have a large selection. Something a bit different that I have is this Chronostop (145.007) which I just put on as I've finished work for the day. It's somewhat larger than the others but is a sixties watch.


The choice of sixties Omegas is huge and definitely something for everyone.

By the way, if your husband was in the forces, you can often find a NATO that suits his unit (colours and so on).

Good luck, Chris

Hi Chris, that’s another super watch but he has very small mans wrist & it would be just too big - tho that orange detailing is just fabulous, his favourite colour! Our son was keen on the black nato strap with orange edging too but yes I noticed the different strap colours, particularly like the leather nato as that’s the only original omega nato strap that will fit a 18mm lug (if I source a seamaster) most of the others are 19/20mm. Flipping heck by the end of this I may become quite hooked on this to get one for myself but right now he is the priority!
 
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Hi Chris, that’s another super watch but he has very small mans wrist & it would be just too big - tho that orange detailing is just fabulous, his favourite colour! Our son was keen on the black nato strap with orange edging too but yes I noticed the different strap colours, particularly like the leather nato as that’s the only original omega nato strap that will fit a 18mm lug (if I source a seamaster) most of the others are 19/20mm. Flipping heck by the end of this I may become quite hooked on this to get one for myself but right now he is the priority!
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Hi Chris, that’s another super watch but he has very small mans wrist & it would be just too big - tho that orange detailing is just fabulous, his favourite colour!

Vicky, that photo was taken very close to the watch and that makes it look far bigger than when viewed from a normal distance either by someone else or when checking the time on your own wrist. I don't have a Chronostop but suspect it is going to wear quite small, mainly because of those short lugs. Lug length matters a lot.

This photo, although still quite close, gives a much better idea of how it would wear:

 
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The 145.007 is about 42 mm diameter so quite a bit bigger than the 34 mm (?) Seamaster you were looking at. The one MRC shows is a smaller size, as I recall because it's a slightly different model but, he's making a good point. My wrists are 6.75 inches.

It also sounds like you are thinking about an Omega leather strap. I've never had an Omega leather NATO but, leather is quite bulky in comparison to cloth so, I think it might overwhelm a 34 mm watch - probably why not many are in 18 mm wide. They are not cheap so, you'd want to be sure - perhaps someone else can show one.

Lots to think about, sorry! Good fun for you, though and you'll soon have one for yourself as well👍. Which county are you in?

Cheers, Chris
 
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The 145.007 is about 42 mm diameter so quite a bit bigger than the 34 mm (?) Seamaster you were looking at. The one MRC shows is a smaller size, as I recall because it's a slightly different model but, he's making a good point. My wrists are 6.75 inches.

It also sounds like you are thinking about an Omega leather strap. I've never had an Omega leather NATO but, leather is quite bulky in comparison to cloth so, I think it might overwhelm a 34 mm watch - probably why not many are in 18 mm wide. They are not cheap so, you'd want to be sure - perhaps someone else can show one.

Lots to think about, sorry! Good fun for you, though and you'll soon have one for yourself as well👍. Which county are you in?

Cheers, Chris

yes 42mm would be too big for sure. It’s one of the reason vintage also appealed for him to keep to the 34/35mm sizing. Hadn’t thought about the strap being bulky, so good point, it was my sons idea as he knows his dad wouldn’t want the weight of a metal bracelet strap. I’m in the UK which is why I’ve also learnt that buying stateside or Far East involves import tax. It’s not an easy journey this one but learning much along the way from all this very helpful forum
 
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What do people think of these?
Also expensive but the seller accepts offers, is in the UK and offers a clear 30 day return policy. Who knows, maybe they might accept half of the stated price?

The style is similar to the one Vicky had first identified.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Omega-Se...962596?hash=item36758630e4:g:bDcAAOSwoWdgCVQu

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Omega-Se...612610?hash=item366fb8bf82:g:DhcAAOSwVjdfxPHZ
 
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What do people think of these?
Also expensive but the seller accepts offers, is in the UK and offers a clear 30 day return policy. Who knows, maybe they might accept half of the stated price?

The style is similar to the one Vicky had first identified.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Omega-Se...962596?hash=item36758630e4:g:bDcAAOSwoWdgCVQu

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Omega-Se...612610?hash=item366fb8bf82:g:DhcAAOSwVjdfxPHZ
Then I would go for the one from closer. 2.5k for a 168.024 is to much. The other one is also to expensive I'm afraid. But they are in the same style as the 166.009

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Somebody bought the 166.010 which I posted earlier in this thread. Damn.
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Then I would go for the one from closer. 2.5k for a 168.024 is to much. The other one is also to expensive I'm afraid. But they are in the same style as the 166.009

thanks both, I’d seen both these watches from this dealer, to pay for one with the metal strap (& subsequently pay more) it will come off but it’s in my watch list!
 
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thanks both, I’d seen both these watches from this dealer, to pay for one with the metal strap (& subsequently pay more) it will come off but it’s in my watch list!
👍

What I'm trying to say, it's very easy to find a similar watch like the 166.009 when you have a budget around 1k. Lots of stainless steel seamasters can be picked up for this kind of money. It's difficult to find one for a couple of hundred.
 
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That first one (168.024) is a lovely watch at the wrong price, at £1k less it would be worth considering. These are 35mm without crown and wear really well on a smaller wrist. They are versatile and can be dressed up or down. The 166.010 is the non chronometer version of the same watch and are more plentiful/cheaper.
 
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Then I would go for the one from closer.

Er... what do you mean by that?

yes I did notice the watch you posted was gone, someone may have even seen it posted here.
However if trying to stick to UK offerings and avoid import taxes, you’re narrowing the field a lot. Again the seller accepts offers.
 
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I’m in the UK which is why I’ve also learnt that buying stateside or Far East involves import tax.
My understanding is that the import tax in the UK is supposed to be equivalent to the VAT that would otherwise be included in the price of items purchased within the UK. This partially explains why prices in the UK are so eye-watering high in comparison to US prices for the same item.

When buying a watch from UK to US, technically, we should be able to reclaim the 20%+ VAT. In practice, this almost never happens.

Anyway, if you can get the watch I posted earlier for under $1,200 (~£900), you'll have plenty of room for import tax and a service in your budget.
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yes 42mm would be too big for sure. It’s one of the reason vintage also appealed for him to keep to the 34/35mm sizing. Hadn’t thought about the strap being bulky, so good point, it was my sons idea as he knows his dad wouldn’t want the weight of a metal bracelet strap. I’m in the UK which is why I’ve also learnt that buying stateside or Far East involves import tax. It’s not an easy journey this one but learning much along the way from all this very helpful forum

No, it isn't an easy journey but you're getting through it👍 In the end, I'm sure you'll get just what you want. Not everyone wants big watches and that's fair enough - mine are pribably from 32mm to 42 mm and I enjoy them all.

I'm in Somerset. Which county are you in as it may be that someone knows of a local shop that is trustworthy. I think we're allowed out again soon... not sure, though!

Best wishes, Chris
 
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Er... what do you mean by that?

yes I did notice the watch you posted was gone, someone may have even seen it posted here.
However if trying to stick to UK offerings and avoid import taxes, you’re narrowing the field a lot. Again the seller accepts offers.
Oh sorry. The name of the japanese dealer is closer0924. The 166.010 I posted was app eur 800. With 21% VAT that's eur 968. With a service app eur 1218 (eur 250 for service). Sell the BOR and you got yourself a serviced 166.010 for eur 1.068. Still a bit to much but it's ok...😁