Is this dial original?

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Paulvision

·Feb 15, 2019

Hello,

I've found an omega seamaster vintage watch with cal 500, the caliber seems to be original but I can't find the same dial on the Internet is it original? The seller claims that the watch is from 1950s.

 

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trash_gordon

·Feb 15, 2019

There where so many dial variations on such models back then. For me it looks ok.

 

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Paulvision

·Feb 15, 2019

But there are no pictures of the exact same dial or exact model of this omega, it's strange somehow.

 

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OMEGuy

·Feb 15, 2019

I believe the dial is original.

But the crystal is wrong for this watch as well as the crown. I also would expect gold hands in combination with this dial.

What reference is on the inside of the caseback?

 

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Passover

·Feb 15, 2019

Sorry guys but I have doubts, look at "Automatic", I think it's a redial but wait for the specialist...

Edit: Quite polished also would be careful with this one

Edited: Feb 15, 2019

 

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STANDY

·Feb 15, 2019·schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector

I would want a better photo, especially the Seamaster

 

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cicindela

·Feb 15, 2019·Steve @ ΩF

Here ya go. A little fancier but the same theme.

 

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Maganator

·Feb 15, 2019

Maybe it is just me but that is a clear redial.

Look at the T and O of automatic. It looks to have been drawn on with a sharpie pen.

 

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Edward53

·Feb 15, 2019

Passover

Sorry guys but I have doubts, look at "Automatic", I think it's a redial but wait for the specialist...

Edit: Quite polished also would be careful with this one

My thoughts also. The Automatic is a mess and just compare the two "a"s in Seamaster.

 

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Steve1haggart

·Feb 15, 2019

the lettering in the word "Automatic" is all over the place i would say its a redial for sure.

 

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Tony C.

·Feb 15, 2019·Ωf Jury member

I'm not at all convinced that it is a redial. In fact, I'd say that it is likely to be original.

When photos are taken at an angle, such as the OP's, the crystal can distort the view of lettering. In any case, I think that a head-on shot would be necessary in order to make any fine judgement.

 

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OMEGuy

·Feb 15, 2019

Edward53

The Automatic is a mess and just compare the two "a"s in Seamaster.

Steve1haggart

the lettering in the word "Automatic" is all over the place i would say its a redial for sure.

Yes, looks odd, but I think it's just coming from the crystal.

 

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Maganator

·Feb 15, 2019

Agreed crystals can distort but the two Ts don’t look the same and the first T looks raised

 

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Passover

·Feb 15, 2019

OMEGuy

But the crystal is wrong for this watch as well as the crown. I also would expect gold hands in combination with this dial.

Given that all I think its unlikely that it is no redial...

 

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X350 XJR

·Feb 15, 2019·Vintage Omega Aficionado

I'm voting original and the hands as well. Lume on the dial and hands match nicely and hands are known to age differently than the applied figures. Minute track lines up with the uncommon applied figures as well, with SWISS MADE positioned correctly too.

 

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OMEGuy

·Feb 15, 2019

X350 XJR

I'm voting original and the hands as well. Lume on the dial and hands match nicely...

I will be voting the same as soon as you can show a comparable genuine watch to us.

 

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hoipolloi

·Feb 15, 2019

I have not seen an original Omega watch with hands and furniture in different tone/color like that.

 

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kingsrider

·Feb 15, 2019

Redial. Automatic is very inconsistent.

 

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cicindela

·Feb 15, 2019·Steve @ ΩF

Unfortunately our voting will not establish verification one way or the other. I know what @mac_omega and Gator would to say:
I want better photos with the crystal removed and sharp close-up details. I am with them on this . Nothing above decides this.
Oh and, the hands are iffy 😁

 

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Edward53

·Feb 17, 2019

The As and the Ts in Automatic do not match. The U looks too big and the C looks too small. That may just be dirt on the dial but it also looks suspiciously like overpainted rust. The hands are wrong, the case is polished and the crown is a replacement. How much more information could anyone ask for?