Is this black dial original?

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This is absolutely not true. Almost all refinished dials still say ‘Swiss Made’ at 6 o’clock.

Which is technically also not incorrect as the dial was still Swiss Made - just not Swiss Refurbished. 😁
 
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I can't see the photo.

edit - I refreshed and now see it. That 2-tone dial with shiny centre section and mat outer ring is puzzling. I have never seen this before. Is it possible that the centre was repainted and hour ring left original? This question is for the experts and I defer to their knowledge and experience.

I've had a few of the two-tone, black dial 2791s and it's siblings (2891/2892/2792) and everything here is correct. Apart from the crown, of course 😀

@smoothsecondscom, You realise it's a watch that has been sold here on OF previously, right?

https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-2792-black-gilt-dial.118229/

It would interesting to know how much the new owner is asking for it.
 
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Good catch!
It would interesting to know how much the new owner is asking for it.
It looks like it is being sold by a dealer for £657 + shipping
 
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Look @ 6 O'Clock SWISS MADE, A good indicator it is the genuine article.
At some point the Swiss said unless it was made [ The Dial ] in Swtzeland, we could not print Swiss on the dials when refinished. FYI Like Idaho potatoes have to be from Idaho.
How are the innerts?
More important than the dial or hands!
Mike

No. The vintage dial is 50% of the value. The rest is easy to replace. And, please, refer to the movement not as " innerts ".
 
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Yes & no, & this is why I won't repair watches for anyone.
Getting parts regardless of dial, hands, crowns is just 80 percent on older watches.
I.E. 1870 Elgin 18s 151643 key wind barrel arbor or other parts hairspring, slow train 16,200 beats.
I don't collect anything anymore. If I own it, it is mine to enjoy!
To heck for everthing being pristine, new in the box.
Did the prior owner die & never enjoy it?
Not any good if you can't use it and enjoy it.
Life is to short & that is what watchmaking is about, Measuring the posible time left on this planet!
Check comment on Al's Dusenburg for better referance.
Mike

You repair vintage Watches ? Elgin? Your comment is somewhat confusing regarding to the technical aspects. Are you still commenting on the black dial Omega ?
 
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You repair vintage Watches ? Elgin? Your comment is somewhat confusing regarding to the technical aspects. Are you still commenting on the black dial Omega ?
I was tired at that time, yep repaired bikes, skies, mopeds, VW gas & 1981 Diesels, photographic equipment, aircraft instruments meter movements, tachometers, 8 day chronographs, flight engineers clocks, (Comercial, light for a few months), worked in a couple store fronts servicing watches including Rolex.
WOSTEP 1995 class precisi[n timing.
You repair vintage Watches ? Elgin? Your comment is somewhat confusing regarding to the technical aspects. Are you still commenting on the black dial Omega ?
 
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Sorry I am on a tablet & the keyboard keeps taking over the screen.
Lose track of everything.
No more on black dial!
Whats left of my collection & my bench images.
Aircraft clock movement Hamilton WWll, twin barrels, 8 day, elapsed time, running time, civil date, no case or hands. The most compilcated clock produced in America.
Take care all & enjoy your time.
Mike
 
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MtV MtV
Which is technically also not incorrect as the dial was still Swiss Made - just not Swiss Refurbished. 😁
Not aware of that, been out of touch, but not surprised.
Thanks for the heads up.
I don't have a problem if the finished dial is well executed.
Kinda like Kodak started a law suite against Paul Simon over using Kodachrome in his lyics.
They quickly retreated as sales went up!
Sometimes ya gota roll with what comes along.
 
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I've had a few of the two-tone, black dial 2791s and it's siblings (2891/2892/2792) and everything here is correct. Apart from the crown, of course 😀

Thank you for weighing in. I thought that the dial was original, but there were so many doubters I lost confidence in my own judgement.
 
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You repair vintage Watches ? Elgin? Your comment is somewhat confusing regarding to the technical aspects. Are you still commenting on the black dial Omega ?
Reread my post, it is chopped, I guess the monitors copped it up.
Mentioned a celeberty that collects cars by name, guess that's a no no.
And the prior owner of a Dusey who is deceased, oh well and the car has been auctioned off.
I grew up down the street from him, always nice cars rolled through the area.
 
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I've had a few of the two-tone, black dial 2791s and it's siblings (2891/2892/2792) and everything here is correct. Apart from the crown, of course 😀

@smoothsecondscom, You realise it's a watch that has been sold here on OF previously, right?

https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-2792-black-gilt-dial.118229/

It would interesting to know how much the new owner is asking for it.


Yes, it was pointed out to me that it was sold here previously. Then it was sold by a reputable member to a dealer. The dealer and I agreed to €650,- which seems reasonable. The watch isn't perfect but an original black dial counts for something 😀
 
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I don't think that is an outrageous price, really. I was expecting you to get fleeced - happy it isn't so 😁
 
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You repair vintage Watches ? Elgin? Your comment is somewhat confusing regarding to the technical aspects. Are you still commenting on the black dial Omega ?
My comment, basicly 80% of the battle in watch repair is obtaining parts.
The price on parts have just sky rocketed. Like everything the prices are nuts.
On the Elgin watch, from 1870's, you might find another movement, but for parts.
It needed a mainspring arbor, the one in it was a different size square than the hand setting.
Oh & yes I repair watches, but for myself anymore, retired.
I tried to post images of my collection or what is left of it.
Mike
 
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Good deal, wear it & enjoy as that is what it was made to enjoy.
Jay Leno had a comment about The late Al Ferarra's Duesenburg.
Al bought Clark Gable's Duesenburg in late 60's or so.
Al drove that car & enjoyed it. He let other people [Jay] drive it.
Jay's comment "That was Al's car, he owned it longer than Gable & enjoyed it"
Something like that.
Mike
Reread my post, it is chopped, I guess the monitors copped it up.
Mentioned a celeberty that collects cars by name, guess that's a no no.
And the prior owner of a Dusey who is deceased, oh well and the car has been auctioned off.
I grew up down the street from him, always nice cars rolled through the area.

unless you said something overtly slanderous/libellous I’d be surprised if the Mods edited your post.
Name dropping is positively encouraged around these parts……👍
 
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Black dials on vintage Omegas are less common. I have noticed a propensity to redial vintage Omegas with a black dial because of this, believing they will sell quicker and be more desirable. A good clue to a redial is to compare the rest of the watch. Does it match the crispness of the dial? Does this dial look like came out of the Omega factory?
 
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Pictures of Swiss Dial production 1995
Paint to die, die to gummie block, transfered to dial blank.
Breitling chronograph dials
Sun burst dial, being produced o