Is this as rare as I think it is? 1944 Omega 2300/7 Copper and Black tuxedo dial

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Hello all,

I pulled this out of my storage recently, and to be honest I cannot remember when or where I got it.

Is this watch as rare and collectable as I think it is? It seems to be all original i.e. movement, case, crown, dial etc. and is in amazing, seemingly unpolished condition. I have been told a reference with the combination of movement and physical features, in its current condition, is a true "rarest of the rare" and a collector's grail watch for WW2 era military watches? I have also been advised it is a museum grade rarity and condition? Surely I didn't have something this rare sitting in a box forgotten.... There seems to be no existing versions of this watch in any open, public digital archives but is a legitimate Omega configuration with less than 200 models ever produced but not confirmed and no publicly confirmed surviving versions and may possibly now be a 1 of 1 left surviving?

I have done some research and found the following:

Year: 1944
Reference: 2300/7
Movement: 23.4SC
Serial: 10495973
Case: 30mm stainless steel with rose gold bezel
Dial: Gold/copper alloy plated brass with black bullseye / sector two-tone dial
Buckle: 1950's / 1960's replacement Omega buckle?

Due to the features, the central seconds movement, two tone dial and year of manafacture it seems to be a high end version of the "Medicus" family from Omega produced mostly for military medical personal and officially Omega's very first center seconds movement ever produced. This was allegedly also one of the last models to use the 23.4SC calibre before changing to the calibre 310 in the mid-late 1940's.

What the hell do I do with this this thing 馃ぃ馃ぃ

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Hi and welcome,

this is not a cal 23.4 SC but it is the later cal 310 (R 17.8 SC) and it is not as rare as you assume.
 
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Hi and welcome,

this is not a cal 23.4 SC but it is the later cal 310 (R 17.8 SC) and it is not as rare as you assume.
Wasn't the cal 310 not produced until 1949?
Its the dial / case / reference that was the rare combination.
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Hi and welcome,

this is not a cal 23.4 SC but it is the later cal 310 (R 17.8 SC) and it is not as rare as you assume.
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I originally thought it must have been a repainted dial but I had it inspected and the below is what the response was:

Based on a magnified visual assessment, this dial appears to be an original, un-restored factory dial.
When analyzing 1940s Omega timepieces for signs of a redial or repaint, we specifically look for several specific visual cues that are present or absent here:

1. Font and Printing Quality
The Omega Text & Logo: The "惟 OMEGA" printing displays the correct period-accurate font, proportions, and weight. Crucially, the accent mark over the "A" in "OMEG脕" is sharply defined. On repainted dials, this accent is frequently forgotten, generic, or poorly spaced.
Track Crispness: The minute indices and crosshairs are exceptionally fine and crisp. A repaint typically leaves behind slightly thicker, "bleeding," or fuzzy paint lines due to modern pad-printing limitations on old surfaces.

2. Condition of the "SWISS MADE" Signature
At the very bottom edge of the dial, the "SWISS MADE" text is partially tucked under the bezel ring. This is a very common layout for original mid-century Omega cases. Redialers often miscalculate the spacing and print the text too high, making it fully visible or centered incorrectly.

3. Natural Aging and Surface Texture
Copper Plating: The outer sector track shows authentic signs of age, including subtle, non-uniform tarnishing and faint spotting where the underlying alloy coating has oxidized naturally over 80 years. A repainted or refinished sector track usually looks flat, perfectly uniform, or lacks that metallic depth.

Gilt Elements: The golden-toned hour markers and tracks are crisp and sit flat against the surface, rather than looking floating or artificially thick.

The crispness of the graphics coupled with the natural, honest aging on the metal sector ring strongly points toward a genuine, factory-original dial.
If you plan to have the watch serviced, we highly recommend to explicitly instruct the watchmaker not to clean, polish, or touch the dial or hands, as its untouched state is where the majority of its collector value lies.
 
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Crucially, the accent mark over the "A" in "OMEG脕" is sharply defined. On repainted dials, this accent is frequently forgotten, generic, or poorly spaced.

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I have never seen a genuine Omega dial with an accent over the "A".
 
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I have never seen a genuine Omega dial with an accent over the "A".
I can鈥檛 tell if that is actually on the dial.

My guess is original, but would need to see in person.
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I can鈥檛 tell if that is actually on the dial.

My guess is original, but would need to see in person.
gatorcpa
I should have elaborated, my comment wasn't about the dial, rather the content of the "examination" results.
 
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I can鈥檛 tell if that is actually on the dial.

My guess is original, but would need to see in person.
gatorcpa
It does have the accent over the "A" on the dial. Chat GPT said this but I don't know 馃ぃ

EDIT: Chat GPT is full of shit 馃ぃ

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What you've "been told" and your "inspected" response sounds very AI
Maybe the fucker used AI to confirm, I don't know how these people work 馃ぃ
I'm just a collector of what I love, not a specialist.
 
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It does have the accent over the "A" on the dial. Chat GPT said this but I don't know 馃ぃ


Now this is interesting. If true. Can you show us more examples of the accented A?
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It does have the accent over the "A" on the dial. Chat GPT said this but I don't know 馃ぃ

Is this AI person a watch collector?
(Tongue in cheek comment)

Maybe @Tire-comedon, a highly experienced collector from this period, and a native French speaker, can comment.
 
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Is this AI person a watch collector?
(Tongue in cheek comment)

Maybe @Tire-comedon, a highly experienced collector from this period, and a native French speaker, can comment.
Not sure, he's a vintage watchmaker, but it sounds like he uses it.
 
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The correct spelling of the Greek letter omega in French is: Om茅ga
So an accent on the A would be plain wrong.
 
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Just had a scoot through AJTT and (bearing in mind the thousands upon thousands of images of watches in there) as far as I can see, there isn't a single example of 'OMEGA'' with an accent over the A - but then again why would there be? I'm pretty sure that the French occasionally use a grave accent on '脌' but don't use an acute accent on 'A'.

Looks like there is a mark on the dial and someone fed a picture of the dial into AI - and got a load of bollocks in return - which is p谩r for the course.
 
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Now this is interesting. If true. Can you show us more examples of the accented A?
I think chat GPT is full of shit 馃ぃ I pulled out my new magnifier that arrived today and its a small piece of something or another on the inside of the crystal 馃ぃ馃グ馃ぃ

Sucks being old and blind