Is this a "near mint" example? (166.010 cal 565)

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I'm looking at this listing for a ref 166.010 which is described as "near mint". Do you think this is accurate? I feel like I'm noticing some evidence of polishing on the lugs and caseback. Curious what others think.

 
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Here's my opinion : The dial looks nice with onyx indices and no obvious spotting or rust on the hands. That said, the pictures aren't the greatest quality. I also see a signed crystal. The case has most definitely been polished at some point in its life; caseback logo and lugs look a bit rounded though still retain some vertical brushing.

There are no movement photos. I'd be interested to see the serial number to have a sense of production year. Likely late 60s from the knurled crown; some will tell you it's not original to this ref but I'm not so sure in the case of late 60s 166.010

Personally, I think it's a nice looking watch. What's the asking price? And I wouldn't buy without seeing the movement first but that's just me. My 0.02 cents
 
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Here's my opinion : The dial looks nice with onyx indices and no obvious spotting or rust on the hands. That said, the pictures aren't the greatest quality. I also see a signed crystal. The case has most definitely been polished at some point in its life; caseback logo and lugs look a bit rounded though still retain some vertical brushing.

There are no movement photos. I'd be interested to see the serial number to have a sense of production year. Likely late 60s from the knurled crown; some will tell you it's not original to this ref but I'm not so sure in the case of late 60s 166.010

Personally, I think it's a nice looking watch. What's the asking price? And I wouldn't buy without seeing the movement first but that's just me. My 0.02 cents
They're asking $1,200, which feels like a stretch to me. I don't really see how this can be described as near mint unless that phrase has some specialist meaning I'm not familiar with. If it were unpolished and came with a recent service I could maybe see it, but I've seen much nicer examples go for much less.

https://ebay.us/m/dO8C3U
 
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Didn't you pass on this same reference last week, for sale on this forum, that was in better condition and serviced and cheaper? I'm not really sure what it is you're looking for. To be honest. If what you're looking for is a "mint" example, and it seems you might be, I wouldn't say you've found it here.
 
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Didn't you pass on this same reference last week, for sale on this forum, that was in better condition and serviced and cheaper? I'm not really sure what it is you're looking for. To be honest. If what you're looking for is a "mint" example, and it seems you might be, I wouldn't say you've found it here.
Regrettably yes. When that listing came up I didn't have the knowledge or the liquidity to confidently pull the trigger. I'd honestly expected a much longer process of learning and searching before I found the right one. Of course now I've budgeted, set aside the money, and learned everything I can about the reference, I'm discovering that it was a once in a blue moon watch. 🤦‍♂️ Live and learn...
 
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It's a common reference and there are plenty around. To be honest, for me, the research and hunt are half the fun. Enjoy the process. There are no perfect watches. Just the perfect one for you.
 
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There is also the 168.024 which is essentially the same watch but has a chronometer movement. They run at a premium to the 166.010 but something else to consider. Lots of both references around, find a trusted seller.
 
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It's a common reference and there are plenty around. To be honest, for me, the research and hunt are half the fun. Enjoy the process. There are no perfect watches. Just the perfect one for you.
That's very nice to hear, thanks.
 
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You’re clearly ready to pull the trigger. Just send a PM to @hant26. He’s sold a dozen of these recently, surely there is another one in his drawer. If you’re in the US, try @nanjingcigaretes.

Then you can start budgeting and searching for your second Omega. 😂
 
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If that's near mint I'm near mint too
 
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There is also the 168.024 which is essentially the same watch but has a chronometer movement. They run at a premium to the 166.010 but something else to consider. Lots of both references around, find a trusted seller.
I'm definitely keeping an eye out for that one too. Personally I think I prefer the cleaner look without the chronometer text on the dial, but I could be convinced otherwise if the right one comes up.
BTW did you check the private watch sales section?
Of course, I'm refreshing the page several times a day 😅
You’re clearly ready to pull the trigger. Just send a PM to @hant26. He’s sold a dozen of these recently, surely there is another one in his drawer. If you’re in the US, try @nanjingcigaretes.

Then you can start budgeting and searching for your second Omega. 😂
I PMd Hant the day he posted the last one with all the noob questions I'd been instructed to ask. At the moment I don't believe he has any available with onyx hour markers, which is a detail I've become attached to. I did PM @nanjingcigaretes as well a couple weeks ago, but I think he may be on hiatus. If you know any other dealers/collectors who specialize in this era/reference I'd be eager to learn of them!
 
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"Near mint" has no particular meaning that I'm aware of, but I'd certainly never use that term for that watch. I wouldn't call it unworn, mint, near-mint, fine, excellent, etc. The watch shows significant wear (plenty of dings, scratches, etc), and some evidence of minor polishing, but I wouldn't let that stop me from buying it at the right price. It's a nice watch.
 
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I agree with others. It is a nice looking watch and I would purchase at right price but in keeping with the accepted custom in describing vintage watches, it is no where even close to near-mint condition.
 
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They're asking $1,200, which feels like a stretch to me. I don't really see how this can be described as near mint unless that phrase has some specialist meaning I'm not familiar with. If it were unpolished and came with a recent service I could maybe see it, but I've seen much nicer examples go for much less.

https://ebay.us/m/dO8C3U
Only study Mint examples in the reference you prefer(easily found in this Forum) till all details are easily identified.

THEN, you will have a way to sift seller's BS from reality.

As above........buy the seller.


And, in this day and time, if a seller cannot take focused, unmanipulated, hiRez pictures, move on.
 
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This eBay seller looks to have dozens of watches for sale and MANY are listed as "Near Mint". It looks to be a grading system they assign their watches. I wouldn't personally put too much confidence in that system. This particular watch, like many of this ref, is from Japan.
 
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Maybe there is a bowl of mints in the room where he keeps the watches? He could be telling the truth when he claims "near mint"
 
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Only study Mint examples in the reference you prefer(easily found in this Forum) till all details are easily identified.

THEN, you will have a way to sift seller's BS from reality.

As above........buy the seller.


And, in this day and time, if a seller cannot take focused, unmanipulated, hiRez pictures, move on.
Good advice, thank you. Ideally I'll buy from someone trustworthy from this forum but I can't help myself from looking around elsewhere. The Japanese market is a bit confusing to me though. I can understand a seller's logic for the brightly lit, washed out photos - they imperfections and scratches and probably have a lightbox setup in the shop to take them quickly and easily as stock comes in. And having the lighting be consistent between listings is at least useful to compare dial patina colors.

What's confusing to me is that despite seemingly having a greater supply of this reference than the US and Europe, the listings generally seem to be priced well above what I understand to be market prices, and provide vanishingly little information in the description regarding service history, etc. Is the Japanese buyer's market somehow wealthier and less informed than the Anglosphere? Very hard for me to imagine that's the case but I don't know how else to explain it.
"Near mint" has no particular meaning that I'm aware of, but I'd certainly never use that term for that watch. I wouldn't call it unworn, mint, near-mint, fine, excellent, etc. The watch shows significant wear (plenty of dings, scratches, etc), and some evidence of minor polishing, but I wouldn't let that stop me from buying it at the right price. It's a nice watch.
Ah okay thank you. If it were listed at maybe $650 I'd go for it and get it serviced myself, but it seems borderline rude to offer nearly half their listing price. Oh well, the watch-hunting adventure continues... I'd be lying if I said I wasn't having fun 🕵️‍♂️
 
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This eBay seller looks to have dozens of watches for sale and MANY are listed as "Near Mint". It looks to be a grading system they assign their watches. I wouldn't personally put too much confidence in that system. This particular watch, like many of this ref, is from Japan.
Yeah I'd have no problem buying from Japan in theory. I'd been meaning to figure out how to use Buyee anyway to buy some nice Ametora type clothes... But as I was saying above, the listings generally hardly have any info in the descriptions and what they do provide mostly arbitrary and inconsistent rubric scores which provide zero information that you couldn't just get from the photos.